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Old 05-18-2016, 07:34 AM
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Bet they hire 200 in next 10 months.
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Bet they hire 200 in next 10 months.
For what, growth??? There's only 60 or so retiring in the next 18 months.
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Contractual scheduling improvements, another 100 early retirements. Not without some summer pain of course
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We were supposed to have like 37 retirements in 2015, we lost at least twice that
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We were supposed to have like 37 retirements in 2015, we lost at least twice that
Nice.. Here at Atlas the old farts are pushing for an age 67 rule. Good to see there are still level-headed baby-boomers commanding these planes.
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Old 05-18-2016, 08:43 AM
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Hate to be the 63rd guy plugging the list for the next decade.

Haha, the caboose is the 1st out the door and into the job market.

Se he's got that going for him ...
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UPS is not the same company it was 10-15 years ago.

Bingo!!

Never will be again. Sadly. It's a pitiful place to work. QOL is non existent. Just $. That's it.
Really,

From talking to an old squadron mate, it's exactly the same company it was 10-15 years ago. In fact, with the exception of a better contract and the hiring that had gone on during that time, it's exactly the same company, he says, that he hired into back in 1988.
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Really,

From talking to an old squadron mate, it's exactly the same company it was 10-15 years ago. In fact, with the exception of a better contract and the hiring that had gone on during that time, it's exactly the same company, he says, that he hired into back in 1988.
Not true. UPS used to be all about service. They would Lear launch just to avoid missed service. Today service is an afterthought. Same empoyee treatment as the old days but entirely different focus. Service is secondary and cutting costs is he corporate mantra.
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OK. I'm sure you're right, except I was talking only about the company's treatment of the pilot group, which from a parochial, pilot's point of view, hasn't changed since the airline came into being.
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Ray,

OK. I'm sure you're right, except I was talking only about the company's treatment of the pilot group, which from a parochial, pilot's point of view, hasn't changed since the airline came into being.
Fair enough.

What has many of us concerned is the lack of vision in this company. They promote from within to a fault. They are content to make around a billion a quarter. Their ambivalence has allowed Amazon to possibly crack our market. TNT, postal contract, and possibly the IPA contract are all unmitigated disasters.

Who is steering the UPS ship? It's not the box heads anymore.
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