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KiloAlphaPapa 07-29-2008 10:45 PM

Two very different old ladys
 
Still working for thier money after all these years.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...t/DSC03951.jpg

greenaf7 07-30-2008 06:56 AM

I would polish that old lady just for a chance to fly it for an hour.
Great shot!

stinsonjr 07-30-2008 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by greenaf7 (Post 435792)
I would polish that old lady just for a chance to fly it for an hour.
Great shot!

I am sure they would take you up on that - seriously.

I did a polished aluminum Cessna 195 once...for $50 dollars. That will go down as the single worst business deal I ever made in my life. I am not sure $500 would be enough for a C-195, let alone a DC-3. Bottom of the wing was the part - my arms are still sore and that was 22 years ago!

stinsonjr 07-30-2008 07:25 AM

Love this picture - a classy old dame, and a fire-breathing Cougar in the same shot. I would love either one.

JayDee 07-30-2008 04:44 PM

The American Flagship has been to BNA a few times... It is pretty amazing up close and personal.

FlyOrDie 07-30-2008 05:28 PM

Nice looking light twins ;)

KiloAlphaPapa 07-30-2008 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by stinsonjr (Post 435807)
Love this picture - a classy old dame, and a fire-breathing Cougar in the same shot. I would love either one.

That awesome Stinson. Im going to have to remember that one: Fire-breathing Cougar!

Ill find a good picture of her cockpit.

flynwmn 09-19-2008 07:45 PM

I understand the cost savings but how can you take her radials and give her turbo-props?

AZFlyer 09-19-2008 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by flynwmn (Post 465106)
I understand the cost savings but how can you take her radials and give her turbo-props?

That my friend, I believe is a Basler BT-67. The old gal has a new pair of shoes.

DAL4EVER 09-20-2008 01:21 AM

Sweet shots. Where are they based?

727gm 09-20-2008 02:12 PM

Flagship Detroit used to be based in VBW (Bridgewater, VA) as a dedicated Sprayer
(Gypsy Moth, Mosquito, Med Fly). It had extra windows just aft of the pilot's
side-windows, allowing a pilot to see the engine and wing and spray pattern on the
OPPOSITE side of the aircraft. The hydlaulic reservior was moved back to the main
cabin, and wall right behind the pilot seats removed, making a large, almost
727-sized cockpit. A wonderful sprayplane, if a bit under-powered with 1200 hp
Wrights; but a gentleman's sprayer, without the cramped crash-cage and helmets, and
the convenience of being able to get up and have a sandwich and a leak between spray
blocks.

The owner had the desire that it be restored someday (by others), so had long narrow
spray tanks built that could be slipped through the small right-side passenger door,
rather than cutting it open. He also had a set of original seats, and overhead hat/coat racks.

Most of my (meager) DC-3 time is in that airplane.

The American Airline Museum basement photo archive has a cool picture of it in a
crowded hangar getting an overhaul, with someone about half-finished polishing it
from dull to mirror-finish. I've also seen a picture of it in its heyday in an
air-to-air early AA color publicity photo against blue sky and cumulus.

And in another book of Vintage airline posters, it's in an AA poster titled "West
With the Night".

And lastly, I saw it in an aerial photo parked in Boston Common!!, in the
mid-Thirties, being shown to the public. (Not as many trees there then, I guess.)

As one could guess, I really miss it.

KiloAlphaPapa 09-22-2008 11:14 PM

Not a Basler, but a great first guess! Its based in So-Cal.

steak pilot 09-23-2008 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by greenaf7 (Post 435792)
I would polish that old lady just for a chance to fly it for an hour.
Great shot!

Dose that pick-up line work on all the "old birds?"

727gm 06-10-2009 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 465176)
That my friend, I believe is a Basler BT-67. The old gal has a new pair of shoes.

I think the T-Prop DC-3 in the photo is one of the other conversions, from Texas or South Africa. The BT-67 is stretched, and has exhaust out the top of the nacelles.

woodfinx 06-14-2009 01:09 PM

Flagship Detroit is based in Shelbyville, TN now if i'm not mistaken.

Convairator 06-15-2009 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 465176)
That my friend, I believe is a Basler BT-67. The old gal has a new pair of shoes.

Well put! Great looking airplanes. These are from the real era of aviation!

SkyWestPilot 06-15-2009 07:33 PM

Hey GM, what are you up to these days?? I remember flying with you in Los Al. You were doing part time Medfly, part time something in at Hawker???


Originally Posted by 727gm (Post 465438)
Flagship Detroit used to be based in VBW (Bridgewater, VA) as a dedicated Sprayer
(Gypsy Moth, Mosquito, Med Fly). It had extra windows just aft of the pilot's
side-windows, allowing a pilot to see the engine and wing and spray pattern on the
OPPOSITE side of the aircraft. The hydlaulic reservior was moved back to the main
cabin, and wall right behind the pilot seats removed, making a large, almost
727-sized cockpit. A wonderful sprayplane, if a bit under-powered with 1200 hp
Wrights; but a gentleman's sprayer, without the cramped crash-cage and helmets, and
the convenience of being able to get up and have a sandwich and a leak between spray
blocks.

The owner had the desire that it be restored someday (by others), so had long narrow
spray tanks built that could be slipped through the small right-side passenger door,
rather than cutting it open. He also had a set of original seats, and overhead hat/coat racks.

Most of my (meager) DC-3 time is in that airplane.

The American Airline Museum basement photo archive has a cool picture of it in a
crowded hangar getting an overhaul, with someone about half-finished polishing it
from dull to mirror-finish. I've also seen a picture of it in its heyday in an
air-to-air early AA color publicity photo against blue sky and cumulus.

And in another book of Vintage airline posters, it's in an AA poster titled "West
With the Night".

And lastly, I saw it in an aerial photo parked in Boston Common!!, in the
mid-Thirties, being shown to the public. (Not as many trees there then, I guess.)

As one could guess, I really miss it.



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