Misdemeanor Warrants
01-25-2015, 05:10 PM
#11
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: ERJ, CA
Posts: 718
With those strikes against you, it is going to be very hard to find a good paying flying job. CFI isn't. Go to AK, if you want to fly and don't want to deal with all the legal issues. Guys with problems also end up flying in Africa as well.
01-25-2015, 07:03 PM
#13
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,069
A conviction, an outstanding warrant, an arrest for driving under the influence; these are things that can be overcome with time. One need not be perfect, nor have a perfect history to work as a pilot.
The concern is that the original poster has multiple counts, and seems unrepentant about them. If he's behind on court-ordered support, he's going to get garnished, and garnishment for failure to pay child support casts a bad light. Failure to honor obligations as a father is as serious as any of the rest.
The original poster's actions aren't ancient history; they're current history, and his view appears to be that if he's not in the same state, they're not a problem.
Another poster noted that one can't get away with being wanted in one state and hope to avoid that state as a pilot. You go where you're told and when you're told. If you live in Los Angeles, then New York City is right outside your front door. Wanted in Alabama? Tuscaloosa may be your next stop. Concerned about what an employer might learn? Expect a five, seven, or ten year background check, including credit checks, driver checks, criminal history and wants checks, to include a check of the national crime information computer database.
When you want to fly from a given airfield that features a security plan, you'll need an identification card, which will include finger prints and a background check. If you can't gain the card due to outstanding warrants and a criminal history, you can't very well work there as an aviator (or a pastry chef, for that matter).
The past can be shown as a learning experience, but only the resolved past, in which it's buried and done by time and settlement. Current events, not a change. Especially if it's clear that your intent is to evade obligations, and it ongoing open act.
Settle your obligations. All of them. Then put some time and distance between you and your history, and establish an honorable, clean past, with a solid work history, and no more incidents of arrest, conviction, or other problems. Clean up your act and life, then move on.
That said, if flying is what you intend to do in time, beginning training won't be prohibited; it will be ten years before you have any significant career, anyway.
My one question is how you intend to pay for your flight training, when you're unable to cover your kid's child support. How about it?
The concern is that the original poster has multiple counts, and seems unrepentant about them. If he's behind on court-ordered support, he's going to get garnished, and garnishment for failure to pay child support casts a bad light. Failure to honor obligations as a father is as serious as any of the rest.
The original poster's actions aren't ancient history; they're current history, and his view appears to be that if he's not in the same state, they're not a problem.
Another poster noted that one can't get away with being wanted in one state and hope to avoid that state as a pilot. You go where you're told and when you're told. If you live in Los Angeles, then New York City is right outside your front door. Wanted in Alabama? Tuscaloosa may be your next stop. Concerned about what an employer might learn? Expect a five, seven, or ten year background check, including credit checks, driver checks, criminal history and wants checks, to include a check of the national crime information computer database.
When you want to fly from a given airfield that features a security plan, you'll need an identification card, which will include finger prints and a background check. If you can't gain the card due to outstanding warrants and a criminal history, you can't very well work there as an aviator (or a pastry chef, for that matter).
The past can be shown as a learning experience, but only the resolved past, in which it's buried and done by time and settlement. Current events, not a change. Especially if it's clear that your intent is to evade obligations, and it ongoing open act.
Settle your obligations. All of them. Then put some time and distance between you and your history, and establish an honorable, clean past, with a solid work history, and no more incidents of arrest, conviction, or other problems. Clean up your act and life, then move on.
That said, if flying is what you intend to do in time, beginning training won't be prohibited; it will be ten years before you have any significant career, anyway.
My one question is how you intend to pay for your flight training, when you're unable to cover your kid's child support. How about it?
01-25-2015, 08:37 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 87
Nobody is perfect. Everyone knows that. With that being said, until you clear up all the issues you currently have, your chance of becoming a professional pilot are very low. You could become a CFI, but most people don't make instructing a living.
Instead of going back to school at a late stage in life, maybe start saving up for your children's education and start paying that child support.
Good luck with whatever it is you do!
Instead of going back to school at a late stage in life, maybe start saving up for your children's education and start paying that child support.
Good luck with whatever it is you do!
01-26-2015, 07:38 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,358
As others have said, regardless of what profession you're interested in you'd be well served to get all of you past issues resolved. And I would also try to get them expunged if/when eligible for that.
This background will probably keep you out of airlines and essentially all jet jobs. Possible exception for some private jet owners who don't mind (or even prefer) employees with shady backgrounds. But you'd need some serious luck to find a "like-minded" employer.
Caveat to that is that at this time there may be a couple of regionals who will literally hire anyone with a pulse and an ATP...but even then you'll need to pass a TSA background check which excludes certain crimes (google the list). Also as somebody mentioned there's places like AK and Africa, but unless you want to live somewhere like that it would probably be a bad move to invest in aviation as things stand now. You would probably not fit in well with the typical aviation culture, unless you're willing to make a big attitude adjustment (in addition to cleaning up your record).
This background will probably keep you out of airlines and essentially all jet jobs. Possible exception for some private jet owners who don't mind (or even prefer) employees with shady backgrounds. But you'd need some serious luck to find a "like-minded" employer.
Caveat to that is that at this time there may be a couple of regionals who will literally hire anyone with a pulse and an ATP...but even then you'll need to pass a TSA background check which excludes certain crimes (google the list). Also as somebody mentioned there's places like AK and Africa, but unless you want to live somewhere like that it would probably be a bad move to invest in aviation as things stand now. You would probably not fit in well with the typical aviation culture, unless you're willing to make a big attitude adjustment (in addition to cleaning up your record).
01-28-2015, 02:50 PM
#16
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Student Pilot
Posts: 2,276
I guess I'll throw my .02 in.
Just as others have mentioned, first and foremost, take care of the warrants. They are not going away. IMO, if you have not had any legal entanglements since the CSE warrant and you do go ahead and satisfy the requirements of both, with time, you should be able to get medically certified to pursue a flying career. At what level...well "that's a horse of a different color". Also, I'm assuming that having a dispatcher license doesn't requirement medical certification.
As one poster pointed out, you do sound unrepentant about your actions/behavior. I guess it's subjective. A domestic violence conviction is a serious crime. In most states, once you touch someone, no matter how slight, it's domestic violence. Period. As far as the child support, if you can prove that you've been giving the mother of your child money....you're good. My hope for you is that you have.
Finally, I firmly believe that your biggest hurdle is going to be convincing a potential employer, let alone the FAA, that you are a RESPONSIBLE person. As it looks now....I don't think so.
atp
Just as others have mentioned, first and foremost, take care of the warrants. They are not going away. IMO, if you have not had any legal entanglements since the CSE warrant and you do go ahead and satisfy the requirements of both, with time, you should be able to get medically certified to pursue a flying career. At what level...well "that's a horse of a different color". Also, I'm assuming that having a dispatcher license doesn't requirement medical certification.
As one poster pointed out, you do sound unrepentant about your actions/behavior. I guess it's subjective. A domestic violence conviction is a serious crime. In most states, once you touch someone, no matter how slight, it's domestic violence. Period. As far as the child support, if you can prove that you've been giving the mother of your child money....you're good. My hope for you is that you have.
Finally, I firmly believe that your biggest hurdle is going to be convincing a potential employer, let alone the FAA, that you are a RESPONSIBLE person. As it looks now....I don't think so.
atp
