Council 26 Mike Arcamuzi for Blk 11 Election
10-20-2014, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by HKFlyr
your forgetting to also blame George Bush also. Blame Webb has gotten old with the SS crowd...
What we have isn't working and changing leadership is needed. It isn't a love fest at the table any more and leadership is what is lacking.
Did you notice that retirement letter out out by Jack A, David C AND John G? Pretty big slap in the face against this great MEC...those first 2 used to support SS, but that divorce already happened.
What we have isn't working and changing leadership is needed. It isn't a love fest at the table any more and leadership is what is lacking.
Did you notice that retirement letter out out by Jack A, David C AND John G? Pretty big slap in the face against this great MEC...those first 2 used to support SS, but that divorce already happened.
10-20-2014, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
The guy who scheduled a jumpseat home during his own Nominating Meeting, even though he's the Chairman of the Council and responsible for conducting the meeting. He had to be coaxed to even attend the beginning of the meeting.
HP, current Block 11 Rep.
FLMD11CAPT sounds angry about Dave Webb and anyone who ever dared call him a friend, but Dave Webb isn't on the ballot. Hate him if that makes you all warm and fuzzy inside, but you can't vote against Webb. (And contrary to what Flying Boxes intimates above, Webb was not recalled.)
FLMD11CAPT also invokes Lincoln and warns us to not change horses in the middle of the stream. However, when your horse is in the middle of a raging river, up to his nostrils in currents he can't handle and about to drown, it's time to dismount!
"Upheaval in leadership"? Gimme a break. This is no more an upheaval in leadership than our biennial congressional elections. Block Rep terms last 3 years, and the terms for Council 26 are nearing their end, thus the normal election cycle. I don't remember FLMD11CAPT warning against "upheaval in leadership" when 3 Block Reps were up for recall during the middle of their terms during contract negotiations. Save us the hypocrisy, please.
Finally, FLMD11CAPT suggests we're in the "last quarter of negotiations." Oh, really? When did The Company come off their insistence on PiBS? It's still in their proposals, and until it comes out, how could we possibly be engaging in meaningful conversations about scheduling and workrules? The only conversations going on right now are the conversations they're probably having in Hollywood, Florida, at the Board of Directors Meeting about how they will nominate and who will support Stratton for ALPA President.
Last quarter ... is that where we entertain Company proposals like freezing our "A"-plan, creating a "B"-scale "C"-plan for new hires, and dead-heading pilots on the B-777? Yepp, sounds to me like we're Reeeee-a-a-l close. Just give 'em ONE MORE PEAK!
One of the candidates for Block 11 knows how the processes work, knows how to get the job done, and will work tirelessly to make it happen. He is absolutely committed to serving his brethren pilots. There is no question he has his priorities straight.
Browse through his website. He talks about how foolish we are to reject talented people from serving this pilot group because we want to act like the Hatfields and McCoys. Instead of refusing to consider anyone associated with one family or another, why don't we look for the best people for the job, period?
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HP, current Block 11 Rep.
FLMD11CAPT sounds angry about Dave Webb and anyone who ever dared call him a friend, but Dave Webb isn't on the ballot. Hate him if that makes you all warm and fuzzy inside, but you can't vote against Webb. (And contrary to what Flying Boxes intimates above, Webb was not recalled.)
FLMD11CAPT also invokes Lincoln and warns us to not change horses in the middle of the stream. However, when your horse is in the middle of a raging river, up to his nostrils in currents he can't handle and about to drown, it's time to dismount!
"Upheaval in leadership"? Gimme a break. This is no more an upheaval in leadership than our biennial congressional elections. Block Rep terms last 3 years, and the terms for Council 26 are nearing their end, thus the normal election cycle. I don't remember FLMD11CAPT warning against "upheaval in leadership" when 3 Block Reps were up for recall during the middle of their terms during contract negotiations. Save us the hypocrisy, please.
Finally, FLMD11CAPT suggests we're in the "last quarter of negotiations." Oh, really? When did The Company come off their insistence on PiBS? It's still in their proposals, and until it comes out, how could we possibly be engaging in meaningful conversations about scheduling and workrules? The only conversations going on right now are the conversations they're probably having in Hollywood, Florida, at the Board of Directors Meeting about how they will nominate and who will support Stratton for ALPA President.
Last quarter ... is that where we entertain Company proposals like freezing our "A"-plan, creating a "B"-scale "C"-plan for new hires, and dead-heading pilots on the B-777? Yepp, sounds to me like we're Reeeee-a-a-l close. Just give 'em ONE MORE PEAK!
One of the candidates for Block 11 knows how the processes work, knows how to get the job done, and will work tirelessly to make it happen. He is absolutely committed to serving his brethren pilots. There is no question he has his priorities straight.
Browse through his website. He talks about how foolish we are to reject talented people from serving this pilot group because we want to act like the Hatfields and McCoys. Instead of refusing to consider anyone associated with one family or another, why don't we look for the best people for the job, period?
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10-20-2014, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HKFlyr
your forgetting to also blame George Bush also. Blame Webb has gotten old with the SS crowd...
What we have isn't working and changing leadership is needed. It isn't a love fest at the table any more and leadership is what is lacking.
Did you notice that retirement letter out out by Jack A, David C AND John G? Pretty big slap in the face against this great MEC...those first 2 used to support SS, but that divorce already happened.
What we have isn't working and changing leadership is needed. It isn't a love fest at the table any more and leadership is what is lacking.
Did you notice that retirement letter out out by Jack A, David C AND John G? Pretty big slap in the face against this great MEC...those first 2 used to support SS, but that divorce already happened.
By the way.... I can say it. I support Scott Stratton. Dave Webb and crew did a good job for a while, then started to believe their own press. I always like Wally Huggins. I appreciate the substantial work they did, but they ran their course....I have little desire to revisit that.
If Arco was such a staunch trade unionist...what did he do to stop the company from direct dealing during HKG LOA 1 when they FDX offered $10k move money during the ratification process they should have gotten an injunction.....DM is a nice guy...but I once referred to him as "The Crown Prince"on here and got a phone call at home from another Officer who is now running for elective office in Texas....funny story. I had proposed limiting the Officer's pay to the FLEET AVG BLG during 4A2b. I couldn't be at the meeting to propose the motion, but I was assured the top three would limit their pay while some of us were getting paid 55 hours a month. In the end, they only dumped a small allowance but claimed they were in solidarity with the crew force. DM won't ever get support from me
Guys that do this job do it for two reasons I think....a lot like a homeowner's association....either they "think THEY should be in charge, because they're so much smarter than everyone else and like the title"....or...or...they're asked by others to do the job. Scott Stratton was asked by Fred Beusser to run. I flew with Scott in the DC-10 and believe me that he doesn't need this to stroke his ego....but I can tell you that if he's going to spend his time doing it, he will do it to the best of his ability.
I've been in charge of a HOA...I was asked to be on the board and was elected in absentia as President as I couldn't be there to defend myself. I busted hump and I did a good job and got some important things done. I have ZERO desire to go back even after others suggest I go back on the board. There are others that can do or will do a better job than me...it's their turn and I'm in a different place in my life right now.
I want a Pilot representing me...not a pilot who thinks he's more important than the rest of us...some mini-Hoffa. This is our association, but these guys seem to claim a bigger ownership share than the rest of us. Some guys are like birds and you have to throw rocks to get them to fly. Few years ago, I was asked to help on a committee....one of the people talking to me about it claimed one of the benefits was trip removal....I had reservations to begin with.....that sealed the deal I said "no". There are guys out there that look at ALPA as a career alternative to flying, like some look at Management as a career alternative.
(Not TonyC though, he is a flying son of a gun...and even though he is still active and involved...he's not trying to fight his way back... I believe he is more interested in getting others to do what he is done doing...)...
The guys that feel like they're the only ones that can do the job right...they bother me, they rarely go away, they SOMETIMES do the right thing for the right reasons.
Some guys just have to be elected and be in charge all the time.....like going from Secretary Treasurer, then a few years later running for public office. I want a guy that identifies himself as a pilot, does a job, then goes home. I will say that if their aspirations are limited to provide experience and continuity....Block rep is probably safe, but if their aspirations is a "counterrevolution" to reinstall the 'rightful heirs' of the previous administration I don't think we have time for that. Be wary of the guy who looks way beyond the next contract as their horizon.
10-20-2014, 11:29 AM
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Moving forward
From Mike's website:
We Must Move Forward
We currently have a Hatfield and McCoy mentality in our union. There are very bright people involved in union work today as well as from the previous administrations. We marginalize ourselves when we prevent union participation based on personalities and thus prevent progress. Our most talented, visionary and bold leaders must unite to build the best possible union for our families.
I am and always will be a people-person. My motivation is for the long term success of our profession, our pilots and the security of our families. My strength is in building relationships and bridging ideological gaps to successfully achieve common goals.
Elect Mike for Block 11
We Must Move Forward
We currently have a Hatfield and McCoy mentality in our union. There are very bright people involved in union work today as well as from the previous administrations. We marginalize ourselves when we prevent union participation based on personalities and thus prevent progress. Our most talented, visionary and bold leaders must unite to build the best possible union for our families.
I am and always will be a people-person. My motivation is for the long term success of our profession, our pilots and the security of our families. My strength is in building relationships and bridging ideological gaps to successfully achieve common goals.
Elect Mike for Block 11
10-20-2014, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal
What we had with Dave Webb quit working.....I think in the environment we have, its been working about as well as it can.
By the way.... I can say it. I support Scott Stratton. Dave Webb and crew did a good job for a while, then started to believe their own press. I always like Wally Huggins. I appreciate the substantial work they did, but they ran their course....I have little desire to revisit that.
If Arco was such a staunch trade unionist...what did he do to stop the company from direct dealing during HKG LOA 1 when they FDX offered $10k move money during the ratification process they should have gotten an injunction.....DM is a nice guy...but I once referred to him as "The Crown Prince"on here and got a phone call at home from another Officer who is now running for elective office in Texas....funny story. I had proposed limiting the Officer's pay to the FLEET AVG BLG during 4A2b. I couldn't be at the meeting to propose the motion, but I was assured the top three would limit their pay while some of us were getting paid 55 hours a month. In the end, they only dumped a small allowance but claimed they were in solidarity with the crew force. DM won't ever get support from me
Guys that do this job do it for two reasons I think....a lot like a homeowner's association....either they "think THEY should be in charge, because they're so much smarter than everyone else and like the title"....or...or...they're asked by others to do the job. Scott Stratton was asked by Fred Beusser to run. I flew with Scott in the DC-10 and believe me that he doesn't need this to stroke his ego....but I can tell you that if he's going to spend his time doing it, he will do it to the best of his ability.
I've been in charge of a HOA...I was asked to be on the board and was elected in absentia as President as I couldn't be there to defend myself. I busted hump and I did a good job and got some important things done. I have ZERO desire to go back even after others suggest I go back on the board. There are others that can do or will do a better job than me...it's their turn and I'm in a different place in my life right now.
I want a Pilot representing me...not a pilot who thinks he's more important than the rest of us...some mini-Hoffa. This is our association, but these guys seem to claim a bigger ownership share than the rest of us. Some guys are like birds and you have to throw rocks to get them to fly. Few years ago, I was asked to help on a committee....one of the people talking to me about it claimed one of the benefits was trip removal....I had reservations to begin with.....that sealed the deal I said "no". There are guys out there that look at ALPA as a career alternative to flying, like some look at Management as a career alternative.
(Not TonyC though, he is a flying son of a gun...and even though he is still active and involved...he's not trying to fight his way back... I believe he is more interested in getting others to do what he is done doing...)...
The guys that feel like they're the only ones that can do the job right...they bother me, they rarely go away, they SOMETIMES do the right thing for the right reasons.
Some guys just have to be elected and be in charge all the time.....like going from Secretary Treasurer, then a few years later running for public office. I want a guy that identifies himself as a pilot, does a job, then goes home. I will say that if their aspirations are limited to provide experience and continuity....Block rep is probably safe, but if their aspirations is a "counterrevolution" to reinstall the 'rightful heirs' of the previous administration I don't think we have time for that. Be wary of the guy who looks way beyond the next contract as their horizon.
By the way.... I can say it. I support Scott Stratton. Dave Webb and crew did a good job for a while, then started to believe their own press. I always like Wally Huggins. I appreciate the substantial work they did, but they ran their course....I have little desire to revisit that.
If Arco was such a staunch trade unionist...what did he do to stop the company from direct dealing during HKG LOA 1 when they FDX offered $10k move money during the ratification process they should have gotten an injunction.....DM is a nice guy...but I once referred to him as "The Crown Prince"on here and got a phone call at home from another Officer who is now running for elective office in Texas....funny story. I had proposed limiting the Officer's pay to the FLEET AVG BLG during 4A2b. I couldn't be at the meeting to propose the motion, but I was assured the top three would limit their pay while some of us were getting paid 55 hours a month. In the end, they only dumped a small allowance but claimed they were in solidarity with the crew force. DM won't ever get support from me
Guys that do this job do it for two reasons I think....a lot like a homeowner's association....either they "think THEY should be in charge, because they're so much smarter than everyone else and like the title"....or...or...they're asked by others to do the job. Scott Stratton was asked by Fred Beusser to run. I flew with Scott in the DC-10 and believe me that he doesn't need this to stroke his ego....but I can tell you that if he's going to spend his time doing it, he will do it to the best of his ability.
I've been in charge of a HOA...I was asked to be on the board and was elected in absentia as President as I couldn't be there to defend myself. I busted hump and I did a good job and got some important things done. I have ZERO desire to go back even after others suggest I go back on the board. There are others that can do or will do a better job than me...it's their turn and I'm in a different place in my life right now.
I want a Pilot representing me...not a pilot who thinks he's more important than the rest of us...some mini-Hoffa. This is our association, but these guys seem to claim a bigger ownership share than the rest of us. Some guys are like birds and you have to throw rocks to get them to fly. Few years ago, I was asked to help on a committee....one of the people talking to me about it claimed one of the benefits was trip removal....I had reservations to begin with.....that sealed the deal I said "no". There are guys out there that look at ALPA as a career alternative to flying, like some look at Management as a career alternative.
(Not TonyC though, he is a flying son of a gun...and even though he is still active and involved...he's not trying to fight his way back... I believe he is more interested in getting others to do what he is done doing...)...
The guys that feel like they're the only ones that can do the job right...they bother me, they rarely go away, they SOMETIMES do the right thing for the right reasons.
Some guys just have to be elected and be in charge all the time.....like going from Secretary Treasurer, then a few years later running for public office. I want a guy that identifies himself as a pilot, does a job, then goes home. I will say that if their aspirations are limited to provide experience and continuity....Block rep is probably safe, but if their aspirations is a "counterrevolution" to reinstall the 'rightful heirs' of the previous administration I don't think we have time for that. Be wary of the guy who looks way beyond the next contract as their horizon.
I filed a grievance on that one; the direct dealing after the LOA was ratified, for the direct dealing in which the Company gave us a few extra bones while they were still trying to fill HKG. After the union had it for a few weeks, they ended up signing a side letter allowing the direct dealing "deals". Pathetic, IMO.
DM and WR came to SFS to push the LOA. At a meeting where DM seemed to be having a hard time answering the Qs from the group out there, WR, being the consummate politician, stepped in and answered most of the Qs, and not to the satisfaction of anyone. No wonder he wants to get into politics in TX. DM seems like a nice guy, I just dont think he has the gusto to get the job done.
10-20-2014, 06:16 PM
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@Jakal. This is Mike Arcamuzi for Block 11 Rep. What does Stratton have to do with it? Or your support of Stratton? Arco v. Howie.
Arco has done more for this block in the past twelve months than the other in the past 36 months.
You are asking about Arco and questioning his commitment to pilots because of the LOA. Have you asked him yourself? Visit electmike.us he has contact info posted there. Report back to us what he says to your questions as we all want to know. Funny you question commitment yet when you ask block 11 instructors they will tell u their rep is MIA. In fact, is there an election? Ask your buddy SS why nothing has been announced to Council 26. The ballots came out today...nothing. Maybe later this week..It Is
Up To Us. Furthermore, running on the ballot just to prevent Arco from winning is neither a vision nor a commitment. If pressed to make an educated guess I would say you are an MD instructor as he hasn't returned calls and emails to instructors in other fleets. Ask the 57 FOs how the feel about stellar representation. The section 11 union openers give up PDO bump for fly days in exchange for banking 12 hours out of your guarantee until you pull trips from open time...wow! Commitment Fail! Word in the halls is your man liked the idea of a freeze...commitment fail! Word is your man voted on the side of 777 jumpseats (and for the listed proxy as well)...commitment fail! There is a new curriculum due to hit the streets in Jan...any idea the challenges we all face as a result? Commitment fail! In fact, the commitment to block 11 is deafening!
Someone has told you about Arco but you do not know him and you have not talked to him or else you would realize just how silly your "gotta be in charge" accusations are. Leaders lead dude. That's what they do. So how about this? You get Howie to drop out of the race and your buds can write you in.
Lastly..you question someone who has the long view in their plans...in future contracts or in say national ALPA President while we are smack dab in the middle of negotiations...twice. Second thought leave Howie on the ballot.
Arco has done more for this block in the past twelve months than the other in the past 36 months.
You are asking about Arco and questioning his commitment to pilots because of the LOA. Have you asked him yourself? Visit electmike.us he has contact info posted there. Report back to us what he says to your questions as we all want to know. Funny you question commitment yet when you ask block 11 instructors they will tell u their rep is MIA. In fact, is there an election? Ask your buddy SS why nothing has been announced to Council 26. The ballots came out today...nothing. Maybe later this week..It Is
Up To Us. Furthermore, running on the ballot just to prevent Arco from winning is neither a vision nor a commitment. If pressed to make an educated guess I would say you are an MD instructor as he hasn't returned calls and emails to instructors in other fleets. Ask the 57 FOs how the feel about stellar representation. The section 11 union openers give up PDO bump for fly days in exchange for banking 12 hours out of your guarantee until you pull trips from open time...wow! Commitment Fail! Word in the halls is your man liked the idea of a freeze...commitment fail! Word is your man voted on the side of 777 jumpseats (and for the listed proxy as well)...commitment fail! There is a new curriculum due to hit the streets in Jan...any idea the challenges we all face as a result? Commitment fail! In fact, the commitment to block 11 is deafening!
Someone has told you about Arco but you do not know him and you have not talked to him or else you would realize just how silly your "gotta be in charge" accusations are. Leaders lead dude. That's what they do. So how about this? You get Howie to drop out of the race and your buds can write you in.
Lastly..you question someone who has the long view in their plans...in future contracts or in say national ALPA President while we are smack dab in the middle of negotiations...twice. Second thought leave Howie on the ballot.
10-21-2014, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Zero13
@Jakal. This is Mike Arcamuzi for Block 11 Rep. What does Stratton have to do with it? Or your support of Stratton? Arco v. Howie.
Arco has done more for this block in the past twelve months than the other in the past 36 months.
You are asking about Arco and questioning his commitment to pilots because of the LOA. Have you asked him yourself? Visit electmike.us he has contact info posted there. Report back to us what he says to your questions as we all want to know. Funny you question commitment yet when you ask block 11 instructors they will tell u their rep is MIA. In fact, is there an election? Ask your buddy SS why nothing has been announced to Council 26. The ballots came out today...nothing. Maybe later this week..It Is
Up To Us. Furthermore, running on the ballot just to prevent Arco from winning is neither a vision nor a commitment. If pressed to make an educated guess I would say you are an MD instructor as he hasn't returned calls and emails to instructors in other fleets. Ask the 57 FOs how the feel about stellar representation. The section 11 union openers give up PDO bump for fly days in exchange for banking 12 hours out of your guarantee until you pull trips from open time...wow! Commitment Fail! Word in the halls is your man liked the idea of a freeze...commitment fail! Word is your man voted on the side of 777 jumpseats (and for the listed proxy as well)...commitment fail! There is a new curriculum due to hit the streets in Jan...any idea the challenges we all face as a result? Commitment fail! In fact, the commitment to block 11 is deafening!
Someone has told you about Arco but you do not know him and you have not talked to him or else you would realize just how silly your "gotta be in charge" accusations are. Leaders lead dude. That's what they do. So how about this? You get Howie to drop out of the race and your buds can write you in.
Lastly..you question someone who has the long view in their plans...in future contracts or in say national ALPA President while we are smack dab in the middle of negotiations...twice. Second thought leave Howie on the ballot.
Arco has done more for this block in the past twelve months than the other in the past 36 months.
You are asking about Arco and questioning his commitment to pilots because of the LOA. Have you asked him yourself? Visit electmike.us he has contact info posted there. Report back to us what he says to your questions as we all want to know. Funny you question commitment yet when you ask block 11 instructors they will tell u their rep is MIA. In fact, is there an election? Ask your buddy SS why nothing has been announced to Council 26. The ballots came out today...nothing. Maybe later this week..It Is
Up To Us. Furthermore, running on the ballot just to prevent Arco from winning is neither a vision nor a commitment. If pressed to make an educated guess I would say you are an MD instructor as he hasn't returned calls and emails to instructors in other fleets. Ask the 57 FOs how the feel about stellar representation. The section 11 union openers give up PDO bump for fly days in exchange for banking 12 hours out of your guarantee until you pull trips from open time...wow! Commitment Fail! Word in the halls is your man liked the idea of a freeze...commitment fail! Word is your man voted on the side of 777 jumpseats (and for the listed proxy as well)...commitment fail! There is a new curriculum due to hit the streets in Jan...any idea the challenges we all face as a result? Commitment fail! In fact, the commitment to block 11 is deafening!
Someone has told you about Arco but you do not know him and you have not talked to him or else you would realize just how silly your "gotta be in charge" accusations are. Leaders lead dude. That's what they do. So how about this? You get Howie to drop out of the race and your buds can write you in.
Lastly..you question someone who has the long view in their plans...in future contracts or in say national ALPA President while we are smack dab in the middle of negotiations...twice. Second thought leave Howie on the ballot.
I said I supported Scott Stratton here because throughout the thread, there were all too many people trying to throw him under the bus.
I was speaking about my belief that people that do this work long term tend to identify themselves more as a professional union guy than an "additional duty". You really got upset at that. I'm sorry, I still believe that.
The comments about the Hatfields and McCoys is interesting, because those that elected Scott Stratton did not do so out of a feud. The only feud mentality that I see come from the guys whose viewpoints were defeated. They seem to publicly voice their disagreement in a vociferous manner. I am neither Hatfield or McCoy....I have no feud with anyone. The fact that some see this as a feud speaks to their own mentality.
You referred to Scott Stratton as my buddy....he's not my buddy, I just flew with him years ago and know him. I like the things that have gone on since he has been elected, though I would at times like a little harder line (thoughts because I'm a pilot and want to be able to control a situation).
I'm not an MD-11 instructor....Not even in that LEC anymore...moved from Block 6 to Block 5. Just following the thread with interest.
You seem really ****ed off about my opinion. I'm sorry.
I was nominated as block rep once, then found out a friend of mine also got nominated. I spoke with him on the phone, found out we thought exactly the same way on things.....wrote a letter to the block saying I thought he'd make a better block rep than me.......he did and still does.
The only reason we both ran is that we felt we ought to...not that we wanted to.
I believe in servant leadership. A block rep shouldn't "lead...Dude". He should represent the wishes of his block.
Years ago, I asked DW why he voted the way he did at ALPA on age 65. He asked what I would have had him do since it was a foregone conclusion. I said "vote the way your pilots felt about age 65"....he responded: "we needed to show 'leadership' to the other airlines." That kind of leadership I can do without.
I will say that anytime someone says their Block Rep doesn't return emails, what they usually mean is "they heard their block rep doesn't return emails."....Most probably don't know how to find their block rep's email address....I had a buddy recently complain to me that our Block rep wasn't answering emails. So I did a test...I got an answer in a day. If you speak to a block rep, you'd be surprised how little correspondence they get.
I don't have anything against Mike Arcamuzi, I was just commenting how it seems that the old guard from the Dave Webb regime keep trying really hard to get back in the house....like in "The Birds", so they can peck out Scott Stratton's eyes. I just figured they'd move on and get a life. Is Arco one of them? I don't know...but if he attracts guys that respond like you do, it's easy to assume he's one of them.
Your angry attack quite frankly makes him look bad.....again, I don't have a dog in this LEC anymore, I'm just voicing my opinion.
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