C Series in Atlanta
12-17-2015, 03:56 PM
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Obviously a bit late with the E190 order and all of the 717s. Too bad because the airplane is a big step-up in technology (GTF engines, FBW with sidesticks and automation up front more advanced than what you find in the 787) and it is very versatile.
Who knows - maybe they could do a deal with Delta for the larger CS300 to fit the gap between the 717 and the 737NG/A320...
Who knows - maybe they could do a deal with Delta for the larger CS300 to fit the gap between the 717 and the 737NG/A320...
12-18-2015, 05:27 AM
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Pretty sure the 717s are on a 7 year lease with the option to buy, and the 20 used E190s would be easy to dispose of. My opinion as an esteemed graduate of the "golden ammo school of rocket surgery" is that both of these are negotiating ploys to either get a huge order of either the Ejets, or C series to replace the 717, 88 and 319. RA is always negotiating.
Originally Posted by David Puddy
Obviously a bit late with the E190 order and all of the 717s. Too bad because the airplane is a big step-up in technology (GTF engines, FBW with sidesticks and automation up front more advanced than what you find in the 787) and it is very versatile.
Who knows - maybe they could do a deal with Delta for the larger CS300 to fit the gap between the 717 and the 737NG/A320...
Who knows - maybe they could do a deal with Delta for the larger CS300 to fit the gap between the 717 and the 737NG/A320...
12-18-2015, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Pretty sure the 717s are on a 7 year lease with the option to buy, and the 20 used E190s would be easy to dispose of. My opinion as an esteemed graduate of the "golden ammo school of rocket surgery" is that both of these are negotiating ploys to either get a huge order of either the Ejets, or C series to replace the 717, 88 and 319. RA is always negotiating.
Delta announces maintenance deal with engine maker Rolls-Royce | AJC@ATL
a coincidence?
http://www.rolls-royce.com/customers....aspx#overview
Just my guess, but the C Series is coming along a lot like the 757. It is a great airplane, worth every penny of it's high cost with industry leading fuel specifics, coming out just as there are a ton of cheap older aircraft are coming to market and fuel is cheap. Amazingly - after all these years, guess what is the most efficient airplane on a CASM basis?
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12-18-2015, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Amazingly - after all these years, guess what is the most efficient airplane on a CASM basis?
12-18-2015, 09:25 AM
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I think he's referring to the new density mod for the -200. 199 slimline seats with entertainment. Investor day presentation had it. The retention of the 757s is causing more life lengthening mods. Better than the 50 seat overhauls that were promised.
Lesson learned: lying is status quo for negotiation positioning... E190s are canceled so we will do heavy checks on 50 seat jets and upgrade them. Whatever!
Credibility is only capital if it's spent wisely. The part about integrity in the presentation yesterday made me vomit in my mouth a little.
Lesson learned: lying is status quo for negotiation positioning... E190s are canceled so we will do heavy checks on 50 seat jets and upgrade them. Whatever!
Credibility is only capital if it's spent wisely. The part about integrity in the presentation yesterday made me vomit in my mouth a little.
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12-18-2015, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Here is a piece of the puzzle you are assembling:
Delta announces maintenance deal with engine maker Rolls-Royce | AJC@ATL
a coincidence?
BR715 ? Rolls-Royce
Just my guess, but the C Series is coming along a lot like the 757. It is a great airplane, worth every penny of it's high cost with industry leading fuel specifics, coming out just as there are a ton of cheap older aircraft are coming to market and fuel is cheap. Amazingly - after all these years, guess what is the most efficient airplane on a CASM basis?
Delta announces maintenance deal with engine maker Rolls-Royce | AJC@ATL
a coincidence?
BR715 ? Rolls-Royce
Just my guess, but the C Series is coming along a lot like the 757. It is a great airplane, worth every penny of it's high cost with industry leading fuel specifics, coming out just as there are a ton of cheap older aircraft are coming to market and fuel is cheap. Amazingly - after all these years, guess what is the most efficient airplane on a CASM basis?
Might help in the acquisition of RR powered 757s coming into the market as well...
12-18-2015, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Anyone else see the C Series 100 demo jet over at the FBO in ATL today? Heck of a day to go sell that jet here.
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