73.7%
04-22-2014, 12:38 PM
#12
Banned
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 520
Originally Posted by CanoePilot
If what you say is true (it's not), it still would be a better deal than the at will job you currently have. You can be fired for anything at anytime without a union. But with Alpa it is an insurance policy.
04-22-2014, 01:17 PM
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
The positive nature of the brotherhood continues. Canoe, DALPA, FEDEX? Please strike with your jetblue brethren when we achieve a CBA in 2018 with a 10% raise. Watch Uncle Lee celebrate with more steak and wine as he touts our achievement. The new jetblue CEO will celebrate too. He just bought a free contract. 10% 4 years later = 0%-8% in ALPA dues. =(-8%)
Secondly, you are going to have to explain your math here a little better.
Say you negotiate a four year deal with a 5% payraise in the first year and nothing in the later three. I know this won't happen, this is just an example. Using your logic, Alpa dues would be -8% but your pay raise would be +20% over the same time frame for a net gain of 12%. If you are going to add up the dues you also have to add up the raise.
Denny
04-22-2014, 01:37 PM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
You shouldn't blindly trust ALPA; they need to be watched. But you shouldn't ever exclusively trust airline management. Ever.
Your future is up to you now. Get involved, volunteer, stay informed and avoid apathy.
Congrats to the JB pilots. Close to 75% is a great show of unity considering the previous drive was around half that. Is that enough to make all your hopes and dreams come true for only 1.9% dues for 2600 hands off line pilots looking the other way? Of course not.
But its a great foundation to build on if you stay informed and get involved. Despite the bonus monger management scorched earth threats, the sun will still rise tomorrow and even more of their lies will be exposed.
Go get em.
Your future is up to you now. Get involved, volunteer, stay informed and avoid apathy.
Congrats to the JB pilots. Close to 75% is a great show of unity considering the previous drive was around half that. Is that enough to make all your hopes and dreams come true for only 1.9% dues for 2600 hands off line pilots looking the other way? Of course not.
But its a great foundation to build on if you stay informed and get involved. Despite the bonus monger management scorched earth threats, the sun will still rise tomorrow and even more of their lies will be exposed.
Go get em.
04-22-2014, 01:45 PM
#15
On Reserve
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 14
How is QQL going to be affected for pilots until a cba is reached. I'm a new hire and just nervous about what this will mean for reserves. I'm not complaining but just trying to figure out if I should move family from Indiana to Boston.
04-22-2014, 01:53 PM
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,236
Originally Posted by Goatheard
How is QQL going to be affected for pilots until a cba is reached. I'm a new hire and just nervous about what this will mean for reserves. I'm not complaining but just trying to figure out if I should move family from Indiana to Boston.
04-22-2014, 01:54 PM
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,236
Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
Paranoia good sir.
If you go to work, do your job in accordance with company standards, you have nothing to worry about. If you believe the Demon Management is lurking in the coat closet, ready to pounce, you've got problems. ALPA provides support for those who believe they have been wrongly terminated. I will agree with that. Insurance. A stretch.
If you go to work, do your job in accordance with company standards, you have nothing to worry about. If you believe the Demon Management is lurking in the coat closet, ready to pounce, you've got problems. ALPA provides support for those who believe they have been wrongly terminated. I will agree with that. Insurance. A stretch.
04-22-2014, 02:12 PM
#20
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,588
Originally Posted by Goatheard
How is QQL going to be affected for pilots until a cba is reached. I'm a new hire and just nervous about what this will mean for reserves. I'm not complaining but just trying to figure out if I should move family from Indiana to Boston.
I don't know if things will change because of this vote, but either way you will have a much different experience as a commuter compared to someone who lives in base.
Yes it is pricey, but there are some nice and affordable areas within an hour or two of the airport. Good luck!
