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10-24-2014, 03:06 AM

#181

Alan Shore

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Oct 2013

Posts: 1,299

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

...even if your new "iron cad" language is better than your previous "iron clad" language, the new "iron clad" language can also be dismissed by future "iron clad" language that dismisses the previous "iron clad" language. This vicious circle of revisions can ensure that you never see the gains you thought you negotiated.

True statement. What makes any language iron clad is the fact that the Company must seek to buy it back if they desire to get around it. So, if we decide that we can sell it for something even better, something that we otherwise would not have been able to achieve, isn't that a good thing?

I'm all aghast at this "vicious circle" of overall scope improvements.

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

My prediction is that after new language is negotiated to allow the previous JV percentages to be violated, you'll strongly tout the great new protections we got for giving up the previous protections.

See above. I'm always happy to trade up in protections, or whatever else, so long as it's a true overall improvement. I don't care so much where I fly, so long as the quantity and quality (read dollar value) of the flying remains at or above its previous level.

10-25-2014, 01:43 PM

#182

Purple Drank

Straight QOL, homie

Joined APC: Feb 2012

Position: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator

Posts: 4,202

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore

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See above. I'm always happy to trade up in protections, or whatever else, so long as it's a true overall improvement. I don't care so much where I fly, so long as thequantity and quality (read dollar value) of the flying remains at or above its previous level.

"At or above?" Why are you ok with "at?"

"At" the previous level of anything, including QOL and other compensation, is not acceptable. It must be "above."

In addition to pay, the "quantity and quality of time off (read family life)" must also improve..not stay the same. Every single last facet of the contract MUST improve. PERIOD.

For crying in Sleepy Ed's beer, Alan. The company is rolling in money. Why are you OK with anything staying "at" previous levels?