Wow, some powerful articles in the news
02-22-2014, 09:29 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by Octagon
"Still, even some pilots who got hired by the airlines before the new rules took effect, regret their choice. One of them is Richard Papp, 26, a third-year pilot at ExpressJet trying to raise his 2-year-old daughter on a $29,000-a-year salary. "This was a lifelong dream," he said. "But if I could do it all over again, I'd do something different."
Nightmares are dreams too... I asked my garbage man how much he makes, about $60,000 his second year.
Nightmares are dreams too... I asked my garbage man how much he makes, about $60,000 his second year.
02-22-2014, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
My garbage man doesn't get out of his air conditioned / heated truck. Just drives around the neighborhood picking up wheelie bins with a mechanical arm. Granted not very glamerous but certainly not as bad as the stigma would suggest.
02-22-2014, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ4LIFE
The difference is that the garbage man has to work his a** off for that $60k. I don't really do much of anything that could be considered work for my $50k. I sit around until we're ready for pushback, have to work a little during taxi and takeoff, then sit around for a while, then have to do a little more work during landing, then sit some more. I do that four times and then go sit around at the hotel. Sometimes I read a book, sometimes I'm on my phone, sometimes I'm just staring off into space. I do that 13 or 14 days a month and I'm off the rest. Being a pilot is one of the laziest jobs out there. Go be a garbage man for a month if you don't believe me.
A security guard could give the argument that they don't do much for their paycheck while they sit around. Difference is they get paid to sit around from the beginning to the end of their shift, not the beginning to the end of their parking brake ACARS times.
02-22-2014, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
A security guard could give the argument that they don't do much for their paycheck while they sit around. Difference is they get paid to sit around from the beginning to the end of their shift, not the beginning to the end of their parking brake ACARS times.
02-22-2014, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ4LIFE
The difference is that the garbage man has to work his a** off for that $60k. I don't really do much of anything that could be considered work for my $50k. I sit around until we're ready for pushback, have to work a little during taxi and takeoff, then sit around for a while, then have to do a little more work during landing, then sit some more. I do that four times and then go sit around at the hotel. Sometimes I read a book, sometimes I'm on my phone, sometimes I'm just staring off into space. I do that 13 or 14 days a month and I'm off the rest. Being a pilot is one of the laziest jobs out there. Go be a garbage man for a month if you don't believe me.
02-22-2014, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tom14cat14
People really need to quit minimizing the job we do. No wonder the public thinks we are over paid. It seams like we do not do anything most of the days because it is so repetitive and we have been doing it for awhile. Ask a new hire on OE how they feel. Most people that have been in their jobs feel like they are not doing much because it has become easy and repetitive.
02-22-2014, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tom14cat14
People really need to quit minimizing the job we do. No wonder the public thinks we are over paid. It seems like we do not do anything most of the days because it is so repetitive and we have been doing it for awhile. Ask a new hire on OE how they feel. Most people that have been in their jobs feel like they are not doing much because it has become easy and repetitive.
02-22-2014, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ4LIFE
The difference is that the garbage man has to work his a** off for that $60k. I don't really do much of anything that could be considered work for my $50k. I sit around until we're ready for pushback, have to work a little during taxi and takeoff, then sit around for a while, then have to do a little more work during landing, then sit some more. I do that four times and then go sit around at the hotel. Sometimes I read a book, sometimes I'm on my phone, sometimes I'm just staring off into space. I do that 13 or 14 days a month and I'm off the rest. Being a pilot is one of the laziest jobs out there. Go be a garbage man for a month if you don't believe me.
02-22-2014, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by flynavyj
Glad to hear you don't work for a living...you must be one of the few.
There are definitely some that spend more time texting/talking on their smart phones than performing their duties...
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