twebb

You are correct, there are thousands of a great pilots that were hired with less. But with 1500 hrs, hopefully they get more guys with 135, cfi, ifr time.

Pilots may take a hit in the first 2 years to get that time, but the pay doubled at the regionals in the last year, this will make up for it and benefit everyone. You can always go fly a jet part 135 with 500 hours and make 45k. They are lowering their times because they are the only ones that can.

Waitingformins

So you weren't a safer pilot with 1,500 hours than you were at 600?

Nantonaku

Never fails, everytime someone will post this. Ridiculous statement too. How could you NOT be better at something the more you do it? How do you know you were ready at 600 hours? So you want the government to start ranking the different type of training and assigning arbitrary values to the quality of different training locations and types?

twebb

You are safer, you're now getting a bigger paycheck as a result. You can afford a crashpad, you can afford to get your significant other a night out so you are both happier. You can afford to buy a real bed vs an air matress and get a good nights sleep. Your company will get you a hotel a day before so you can rest. You can pay your bills so you aren't stressed while flying. All thanks to the 1500 hr rule. And you probably learned something extra during that 1000 hrs of getting time.

Waitingformins

I know total guber, I garentee you IOE at regionals is much different than IOE at mainline. "but he was ready at 600"
#1levelofsafety

Ifly4u2c

1500 hour rule is worthless... when it comes to define more experience in the 121 world. Perhaps lets say, that you have 1500 hours which 100 are multi in a PA44 and 1400 are C172. what kind of experience can you transfer to a RJ??? radio comms, really basic aerodynamics and systems, airspace and IFR flying, maybe you get some maybe or you get basically none, and this IFR is on airplanes with cruise speeds slower than Vref on a RJ... like someone said 600 hours he was more than ready, I believe it, but i also believe there are pilots out there that even with 1500 hours are not ready yet, but they are "pushed" thru by their company, bc of the lack of pilots to fill in cockpits.

I believe, that the only way to make the sky safer is not keep a 1500 hour rule, but allow pilots to be tested by independent FAA examiners at 500, 750, 1000, 1250 hours of experience. this pratical test could be done in a level D sim, at the pilot request at these times, they would get a chance to prove they were ready. if they would fail, they would have to wait till they reach the next level of hours. The test shall NOT be something standard, bc eventually would be gauged and therefore would become worthless to evaluate the actual skills of the pilot. regarding the system knowledge and all the other stuff usually evaluated on the oral, it should be studied by the pilot on its own.

When i talk to my fellow pilot friends I usually use this example. Just because you are a "head chef" at Mcdonalds for 15 years, will that make you a good chef, or someone good enough to become a chef or a chef helper, at a fancy expensive restaurant???

these are my 2 cents to this 1500 rule.

safe skies fellow pilots

iFlyRC

250 hour kid straight out of flight school like ATP would do better than the 50+ year olds that have been weekend warriors for the past 30 years flying out of uncontrolled airports.
I think we all secretly acknowledge this, but choose to respect the 1500 rule for the QOL gains it has given us.

deltajuliet

Yep. Let's be honest. Safety is great, but the biggest benefit we've received from 1500 is our newfound bargaining leverage. To that end, every pilot should support it.

Waitingformins

That same kid would do better with more hours under his belt. AAG owns 4 airlines one has 16k apps on file the other 3 barely have 16. The company choosing to hire the middle aged week end warrior with 1500 hrs is their choice, and not one as a consiquence to safe government regulations after an unnecessary crash.

snackysmores

The 1500 hour rule is about creating supply control for pilots. If we lose it, we're taking a massive step backwards. Everything we've gained in pay/QOL/work rules will disappear if we lose it.