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Old 05-23-2016, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey View Post
If there was a list of people who have recently gotten hired at a legacy upon reaching their "1000 TPIC", it would be 0 pages long and would include 0 people.
I have a friend who got hired at AA not long after hitting 1000 TPIC. It does happen believe it or not.
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Old 05-23-2016, 02:57 PM
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I have a friend who got hired at AA not long after hitting 1000 TPIC. It does happen believe it or not.
I know people who have been hired with 200 TPIC.
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Old 05-23-2016, 04:15 PM
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I know people who have been hired with 200 TPIC.


I know someone with 0 TPIC, so really we never need to upgrade to move on, just to make more money. /s
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Old 05-24-2016, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by word302 View Post
Why would you earn your time when you (mommy and daddy) can buy it
"I don't want to spend a year doing patternwork, it's not going to help me fly a jet"

Yeah man, it's all about those jets, right?
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Old 05-25-2016, 11:41 AM
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Why does everyone on this forum sound like a depressed little *****? Lakes isn't the best place to work, we get it. Captains are making $5,000 bucks, flying about 100-120 hours a month. Stressful? Yes. Not enough money for you? You need to get a better budget. People only stay at Lakes at the MOST, for 3 years. Then, we move on to a bigger airline. Legacy? Sometimes. If you think you can make more money and get better experience flight instructing some foreign student for a couple years, then sit at another regional for another 4-5 years, be my guest. We chose to come here because it is literally the quickest way to move on to the bigger airlines. You guys do what you want, but seriously, stop being dicks about everything under the sun. You aren't Gods gift to aviation.
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Old 05-25-2016, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by crawford9700 View Post
Why does everyone on this forum sound like a depressed little *****? Lakes isn't the best place to work, we get it. Captains are making $5,000 bucks, flying about 100-120 hours a month. Stressful? Yes. Not enough money for you? You need to get a better budget. People only stay at Lakes at the MOST, for 3 years. Then, we move on to a bigger airline. Legacy? Sometimes. If you think you can make more money and get better experience flight instructing some foreign student for a couple years, then sit at another regional for another 4-5 years, be my guest. We chose to come here because it is literally the quickest way to move on to the bigger airlines. You guys do what you want, but seriously, stop being dicks about everything under the sun. You aren't Gods gift to aviation.
Oh oh, somebody got a snuggie. If you were really that comfortable with your decision to work at that $h_t hole that kind of stuff wouldn't bother you. The fact is Lake's reputation is well deserved. You probably knew that before you took the job with them. If not, shame on you for not doing your research. Also I've known plenty that have been at Lakes longer than 3 years
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:38 PM
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Speaking of Lakes reputation, quite a few guys go to the majors from there. They have an excellent training program that takes low time guys and throws them into one of the toughest IFR environments in the country. Mountains, ice, non-RADAR, etc. all while flying arguably the most difficult airplane at that level (I have a 1900 type, I can speak from experience). That's probably why they all move on so fast. Most guys at my regional spent 8-10 years there.

With all the movement Lakes is probably one of the best moves you could make especially as a low time guy. Do well, get into the training department, and you're at United or SWA by your mid 20's. Or go to Frontier and upgrade on the Airbus before you'd upgrade on the RJ at your typical regional.
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Old 05-25-2016, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User View Post
Speaking of Lakes reputation, quite a few guys go to the majors from there. They have an excellent training program that takes low time guys and throws them into one of the toughest IFR environments in the country. Mountains, ice, non-RADAR, etc. all while flying arguably the most difficult airplane at that level (I have a 1900 type, I can speak from experience). That's probably why they all move on so fast. Most guys at my regional spent 8-10 years there.

With all the movement Lakes is probably one of the best moves you could make especially as a low time guy. Do well, get into the training department, and you're at United or SWA by your mid 20's. Or go to Frontier and upgrade on the Airbus before you'd upgrade on the RJ at your typical regional.

Well, I'll give you that. Lakes does offer tough and thorough training as well as tough flying environments. Ten years ago I'd agree with the rest. Now days there are people moving just as quickly at a few other airlines without having to put up with low pay and all the other B.S. And some without TPIC. Lakes does have an option for low time pilots that would rather not build time by conventional methods. But, if it wasn't for EAS routes, Lakes wouldn't be around. I'm not speaking of the pilots, but their product is terrible. And finally people are waking up and realizing that you don't have to pay that kind of a price to advance ones career
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Old 05-26-2016, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User View Post
Speaking of Lakes reputation, quite a few guys go to the majors from there. They have an excellent training program that takes low time guys and throws them into one of the toughest IFR environments in the country. Mountains, ice, non-RADAR, etc. all while flying arguably the most difficult airplane at that level (I have a 1900 type, I can speak from experience). That's probably why they all move on so fast. Most guys at my regional spent 8-10 years there.

With all the movement Lakes is probably one of the best moves you could make especially as a low time guy. Do well, get into the training department, and you're at United or SWA by your mid 20's. Or go to Frontier and upgrade on the Airbus before you'd upgrade on the RJ at your typical regional.
You forgot one thing. Majors don't hiring you knowing you came from an airline that had "excellent" training. They hire guys who go to job fairs, volunteer every second they have on their days off and who know the right people (kiss *ss and network) to get their apps looked at.
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Old 05-26-2016, 10:51 AM
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They must've updated their training after my stint there. It was pretty rough.
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