Aurora8

Legal or enforceable or not, in my experience any time you have to go to a lawyer for anything - whether you're "right" or innocent or whatever - you're in trouble and going to spend money - sometimes a lot of money...so best not to have to seek out legal help in the first place, i.e., don't sign a contract!

ClickClickBoom

13th Ammendment.

Blackwing

What you actually sign at Mesa is a promissory note, which is very much enforceable.

Skyler02

And again. Mesa is the only airline requiring a training contract. Just one more reason not to go to Mesa. Or anywhere where you have to sign a training contract. See it as the huge warning sign that it is.

Do not sign a training contract. Go to a company that doesn't require it. Which, right now, is every regional other than Mesa.

Mover

If you take the bonus (Paid in lieu of training pay) at Republic, you sign a 24 month contract.

RemoveB4Flight

Republics bonus is in lieu of training pay? This must be a joke. How can they even be considered a bonus? To me a bonus means extra or in addition to. That really just sounds like an pay advance. AND you have to sign a 2 year contract.
This is absolutely unreal. I can't believe they get anyone to fall for these scams.
I don't know which one has me in more disbelief..the company for having the balls to offer it or for people to actually accept it.

Arliss

I thought the AAG regionals ask for a 2 year commitment to keep all the bonus money.

rickair7777

And said lawsuit will show up on any background check, that's public record and easily searchable on the internet. The majors are going to love that...

Duck Sausage

They do but I can tell you right now that Mesa is no bueno. The two year contract really isn't that bad considering how much you get paid hourly. Two years flies by and at Piedmont and PSA the upgrade times are relatively short. Piedmont you can get left seat immediately if you have 121 time and if not a short upgrade time. I believe at PSA it's at 2.5-3 years to upgrade. I think Envoy is right behind them but historically before all of this they had a fairly longish upgrade time. People on here will tell you anything under 10 years is good because a lot of them did that and paid their dues. Much respect for them on that aspect. Go to any of the WOs and don't mess with Mesa. They have good bases but the rumor is they are always about to get squeezed out. Envoy and PSA I think have better bases over PDT. I don't study much about Endeavor or Skywest but I know people at both and seem to like it. I think Skywest has a really long upgrade but that's a speculation and no truth to that. Honestly to be truthful everything on forums is speculation lol. Take it with a grain of salt. This is truth don't got to Mesa. I can't express that enough.

rickair7777

Maybe. They have been enforced plenty of times.

A mom and pop 135 will probably have trouble enforcing one if it wasn't written and executed correctly. A big machine like mesa probably has all their legal ducks in a row.

The one likely sure-fire way out of a training contract is if they didn't notify you (ideally in writing) that you would have to sign a contract when they offered you the job. It's too late once you show up for class...you already quit your old job, presumably can't get it back, and are now "under duress" to sign the contract, ie you need a job. Contracts signed under duress are invalid in any state.

Will mesa spend $30K to enforce a $12K contract? Sure...they'll scare 100 other galley slaves into staying on their oar.