Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Yes he can. Haven't you ever seen one of his presentations (they are quite good, even if I disagree with his conclusions).

His presentation is that Delta Air Lines is performing well and that Delta Air Lines Pilots are near the top of their peer group in pay & working conditions (all true & he does deserve much credit for all of these successes). Then he dives into the idea that small jets can not be operated at mainline profitably. This concludes with when Delta makes money we make money. We can do better negotiating with a profitable company.

He touts the APA as foolish and an example of doing everything wrong.

When sitting through his presentation it was obvious that he relied on bankruptcy economic analysis to determine "small jets can not be operated profitably at mainline." In subsequent presentations he removed the obvious references to facts no longer in existence (like differences in ground handling costs) but the conclusion remained the same.

A pilot posted the presentation summary under the title "Outsourcing is Good." The insiders jumped on his head. But, the audience member got it right. Moak's economics based argument is that outsourcing helps the company make money, which benefits Delta pilots.

This of course triggered my response, where's Moak getting his numbers? Folks learned without Moak's approval no one could run an economic analysis and Moak was not giving the command to do that work. There are varying after action reports, but at the time of the vote everyone was unanimous that we divested Compass without running the numbers.