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06-07-2011 | 07:44 PM

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Adlerdriver

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Time for a little fun...

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Originally Posted by jetgo166

From my thousands of hours over Asia, let me tell you that you cannot understand the international flying, UNLESS YOU HAVE THOUSANDS OF HOURS OVER ASIA! Not only Asia, but S. America, Africa, Oceania, etc. What works in our great country, does not work overseas. You must be able to understand how these third world air traffic controllers operate. Yes, hopefully an f/o will learn how to handle situational awareness after several years of this type of work, but please do not think that the world wide ACMI business is anything like our domestic operations. I work for a scheduled 121 carrier in the vast Asian continent, and we spit out lots of guys that think things out here should be like the USA. It just doesn't work that way, and anyone thinking that they can hack a job at a major international freight-hauler should consider my advice. I personally work for a passenger carrier, you must carry a serious sense of humor to even show up to work. On the other hand, I love this work, and it pays lots of money. Nuff said.

This is too much to let pass by without a little good natured sarcasm and ridicule for good measure. What an amazing post.

Duuuuude – Are you kidding me? Get over yourself.

From my thousands of hours over Asia, let me tell you that you cannot understand the international flying, UNLESS YOU HAVE THOUSANDS OF HOURS OVER ASIA!
“Understand THE international flying…..” Strange sentence format. Understand what, exactly, about THE international flying? The concept of flying aircraft from country to country, how someone can come up with that many stupid sounding 5 letter fix names, that whole crazy lat/long system, how it’s dark there and light at home, what the heck the guy in Myanmar said to you over the tin can and string he’s trying to talk to you with……. I mean be specific. It sounds like we all better get our guys on IOE to head on over to Asia and start flying circles in the sky so they can start working towards their first thousand hours.
Not only Asia, but S. America, Africa, Oceania, etc.
Ah – jeez – this IOE is going to take FOREVER!!

What works in our great country, does not work overseas.
Now you tell me! I sure could have used such wisdom last week when blew off my chinese ATC controller and decided not to use meters for my cruise level.

You must be able to understand how these third world air traffic controllers operate.
You mean like the best way to get an Indian air traffic controller to speak louder and faster is by saying “Say again”?

Yes, hopefully an f/o will learn how to handle situational awareness after several years of this type of work, but please do not think that the world wide ACMI business is anything like our domestic operations.
Learn how to handle situational awareness……. Whaaaaa? So, after several years, he’ll eventually learn how to handle the fact that he actually had situational awareness??? ........ and world wide ACMI not like domestic...... are you sure?

I work for a scheduled 121 carrier in the vast Asian continent, and we spit out lots of guys that think things out here should be like the USA.
Sounds like your hiring method needs some work. Only an idiot would trek to the other side of the planet (to the VAST Asian continent) for a flying job and show up thinking it will be like the USA.

It just doesn't work that way, and anyone thinking that they can hack a job at a major international freight-hauler should consider my advice.
After reading your post, I can’t imagine that anyone would be crazy enough to think they could “hack” such a job. Sounds like there’s only one person on the planet who could.

What advice have you actually given anyone to consider. So far, all you’ve done is make a lot of “master of the obvious” statements and tell us that anyone whose mother didn’t spend at least half her pregnancy actually airborne over Asia isn’t qualified to get in a jet and actually fly over Asia.

I personally work for a passenger carrier, you must carry a serious sense of humor to even show up to work.
Don’t worry they’re all laughing with you, trust me.

On the other hand, I love this work, and it pays lots of money. Nuff said.
Something I can finally agree with you on.

Bottom line – you sure have built this whole international flying thing into quite a big deal in your own mind. If it’s really that challenging for you, maybe you need to think about a change. After all, a man’s got to know his limitations.

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