Just to be clear: I think that means that you think that what happened to the TWA guys was generous, right?

aa73: Here's a version from a Frontier pilot's perspective. Frontier went into Ch 11, had a late offer by SWA with 24 hours to negotiate a seniority integration. If thatby itself is not enough for you to determine the outcome, SWA wanted a staple with no job protections for the approximately 1/3 of our pilots who would have been furloughed in the process. We proposed that we'd consider a staple if they would guarantee pay and benefits for the furloughed pilots. Time ran out (surprise!), RAH's offer was accepted, and would likely have been even chosen if FAPA had accepted the staple job from SWA, due to the conditions of the Southwest offer.

The Lynx, Frontier, and Midwest pilots attempted to negotiate a seniority integration, and were somewhere in the same ballpark. IBT (for RAH pilots) showed up late and asked for something very different from what the other three groups were working on. The SLI ended up in arbitration, with more or less a percentage merger. I'm a Frontier captain with 2 years more longevity than the E145 immediately above me on the combined list. FAPA did the usual thing in an SLI and filed appeals.

RAH merged the operation of the two airlines to the point where the NMB ruled that we are a single carrier (watch out AA guys - Eagle might get a sweet deal if they can do the same!) That means that in 7 years, when the fence comes down, I potentially might get bumped from Airbus captain to ERJ captain.

Frontier has been bleeding due to the high oil prices and low RASM. By year's end, the losses on the Frontier side will exceed the profits of the fee for departure side. The RAH BOD told Bedford to fix it or they would have to shut down Frontier. Bedford came to FAPA, Airbus, GECAS, airports, etc, looking for reductions in costs. FAPA agreed to a pay freeze in return for an equity investment in the company, separation from RAH, and profit sharing. The conditions of the agreement state that if the other parties don't also chip in, we continue to get our snapbacks to payrates prior the bankruptcy (and the likely demise of Frontier).

The RAH pilots are upset that they may not get to slide into an Airbus without having to interview and start back at the bottom somewhere else, and are thus pretty ****ed that the SLI might be mooted.

On the representation side of things, there is a representation vote going on, which no party wanted but was forced on us by the NMB. RAH/IBT has 2000 pilots to Frontier's 650. IBT has offered no certainty that Frontier pilots would have any representation on their EXCO (similar to MEC), so FAPA is pitching the Republic Pilots Council which would leave the current representation on each side intact, with a common council of 3 pilots from each airline to work on merging us in an equitable fashion. IBT doesn't want that to happen, because it's better for RAH/IBT to have total control vs. sharing it with the Frontier pilots.