Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Negotiating concessions after 9-11 during the worst revenue environment in HISTORY is NOT the same thing as doing so during the STRONGEST revenue environment since pre 9-11.
I'm going to go against the current of reason and assume you're serious (and not just trying to stir the pot). Thus, I'll do the same thing you are (choosing random metrics to justify my position):
We voted concessions while oil was higher than it's been for all but 11 months in the last 5000 years. When UA, etc, voted their concessions, it was 1/3 the current price, so they are a bunch of losers with no balls.
Or how about this:
Back in 2003 when the other pilots were giving huge concessions, the airlines were operating a lot of older airplanes that burnt more fuel. Thus, they had high costs anyway, and the pilots shouldn't have caved to company pressure - they should have said "just get more fuel efficient airplanes instead of asking us for cuts". Thus, they are spineless and the shame of the industry.
Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
I'm here to tell you that because of this collapse of courage, you are universally disrespected and always will be. I can never look at a Frontier pilot the same way as I used to. Never.
I'm sooooo scared.
Originally Posted by
BoilerUP
I specifically wrote LAST TWO DECADES. You know, the post-Eastern Air Lines era when, despite numerous scope & bankruptcy concession opportunities to do so, not a single pilot group sacrificed themselves and their careers for the 'betterment' of the airline pilot profession and shut their company down.
Actually, the Westair pilots did, bless their hearts. Didn't you notice the way regional pilot pay spiked afterwards?
Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
What amazing ignorance. Revenue has nothing to do with it? Really? Ever see stocks crash after an earnings report that shows increased profits but LOWER revenue?
No, I missed it. Show me (...I asked, expecting no response).
Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Since you'll probably be interviewing soon, you can let us all know.
Not likely. Only an idiot would think that interviews have no value.
Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
SWA's high fares are helping to create the very strong revenue environment that we're all seeing.
Once again, pay attention before responding. DEN and MKE have some of the lowest fares in the country. You are playing flame bait, aren't you? No pilot could have this loose of a grasp of logic.