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Old 06-22-2011 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
EWRFlyer:

"the violations at this point are causing harm or potential harm to the CAL side of the house right now. "

I disagree, the violations hurt BOTH sides of the house right now. The longer Jeff has the free run to do what he wants by exploiting and violating either contract the longer it will take to get a single contract which improves BOTH sides of the house.

Dude (or dudet) I have been at this for well over three decades and seen the Lorenzos, Icahns, Ferris', and even the self-serving MEC Chairmen who have all brought havoc to this industry. It is time to stop thinking harm to the "CAL" side and start realizing that such separate thinking will do more harm to "both" sides by Jeff and his exploitation of such thought.

If it hurts CAL pilots then it hurts UAL pilots and if it hurts UAL pilots it hurts CAL pilots!
Regular,

My intent was not to offend or even suggest that the situation is ONLY CAL or ONLY UAL pilots. Maybe my wording came across wrong because I am one who believes that we (UAL and CAL pilots) need to fight collectively. There is no doubt that we are all in this together and that what harms one of us harms us all.

In regards to my original response, let me try it a little differently. Both MECs individually AND collectively need to monitor everything that goes on in the system. At the point where one side or the other or both see a violation of any agreement or language, the appropriate side whose language is being violated needs to take the lead in the fight. In this case, the CAL MEC has filed the grievance because in this instance it so happens to fall under our language. Then as a pilot group we all back up what needs to be accomplished on the respective sides of the house.

Does that make more sense in what I was trying to convey?
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