Originally Posted by Scoop

Carl is correct. The simple truth is that if we are not willing to risk anything - we will probably not gain much. A few month ago I flew with a Captain who said C2000 rates were his minimum. I asked him if he would be willing to strike over it. He said no. I said Hmmmmm????

When guys ask me what number I would like to see I say I don't have a number. I will not make a decision until I see the "whole package." A 50% pay-raise does me little good if we cave on Scope. Conversely a smaller raise with tight scope, better vacation and training minimums, higher 401K, 75 hour reserve minimum etc could be much more attractive.

The devil is in the details. We fell for the "Big $$$" on C2000 and gave up a ton of Scope. The $$$$ soon disappeared but our Scope failure (my opinion) unfortunately, is still around. Pay-rates are very important, probably the most important single issue, but the contract must be look at in total.

Scoop