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Old 06-30-2011 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Uh, not exactly.

According to APC pay tables:

AirTran 737 rate:$163
Delta 737 rate: $174
Delta 747 rate: $217

AirTran is being operated as a wholly owned subsidiary (Guadalupe holdings). I expect that they will eventually come under the SWA contract/pay rates, but there hasn't been a JCBA negotiated. The history of negotiating that document isn't very pretty for major/national airlines. AAA/AWA have been at it since 2005. UAL/CAL have been at it since May of 2010. The SWA/AAI integration has and will continue to sorely test the "culture" just like it has everywhere else. The threads on this board are proof of that.

Some corrections for you:

1. Guadalupe holdings doesn't exist. It existed for 1 minute during the transaction. The name is AirTran.

2. By the end of 2011 the payrate for the 717 and 737-700 will be $174.00.

3. These are 117 seat and 137 seat aircraft.

4. There will not be a JCBA. Only an amendment to the SWAPA contract for 717 rates and International pay etc.

5. By the time you enter negotiations AirTran pilots will in all likelihood be operating under the SWAPA contract. Being paid at a rate similar to your 777/747 rates.


Are you trying to manage Delta pilots expectations ?