If I was at AirTran I would have voted ALPA in as well...they were treated and abused like a red headed step child. I have many friends there and that was a good move for them I believe. We aren't even close to being treated like they were. As far as FedEx, they left ALPA once before and yes they voted them back in. I look at FedEx as an exception. The pilot/managment relationship at AA will never in a hundred years work together. They have nothing to loose by soliciting the help of ALPA. SWA has definitely set a high bar. True other airlines have fallen back, SWA have had continued raises that has pushed them to new levels as well as ahead of other airlines. They used to be one of the lowest, they are now one of the highest paid for 737 pilots.