Originally Posted by shiznit

Don't forget that just recently AirTran voted ALPA IN, the guys at FDX voted ALPA IN, both had independent unions and BOTH groups have fared MUCH better with ALPA rather than being on their own. APA has hired the ALPA law firm to help negotiate a new deal.

DAL has about 2500 guys out of 12300 who are unhappy with ALPA. That will NOT get ALPA off property.

SWA has NEVER established a new bar. They were compensated 20-30% less than other major airline pilots since their inception. They are at the top right now because others fell back, not because they have "outperformed" ALPA as an independent bargaining agent.