Originally Posted by
sailingfun
Carl, The info you have is from a welcome to SW package for the Airtran pilots. Its intent was to show the incredibly deal they are getting and why they should agree to what SW wants in the SLI.
I don't care where the info came from, and you shouldn't either. The only thing that matters is if it's accurate or not. And it IS accurate.
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
If you think Swapa is not above a bit of spin then we will disagree on that point.
Again, who cares. Accuracy is all that counts.
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
Most of the info is basically accurate however just glancing at the numbers suggests again some spin!
Oh really.
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
1260 trips is the average per pilot? Not likely since you really can't fly more then that without bumping up against FAR's. Under their system 1260 trips equates to 1090 hours. I do understand that some legs go under block and you can fly more but I simply don't think that its the average.
Ever hear of training credit and vacation credit?
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
In the end the total block hour costs between SWA and Delta will be used by both sides in the negotiations. There is nothing secret there. Its not however a number that will show SW way above us.
It is indeed a number that is way above what a Delta pilot makes. You're right though that management/DALPA will definitely portray us as making more money than SWA pilots.
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
If we want a number to justify the biggest raises possible focusing on the SW contract would simply not be wise. A much better position to take would be revenue generation per pilot. At Delta we generate significantly more revenue per pilot then at SW. Those numbers are also easy to find.
Whatever makes for the highest opening position. But you can't deny the facts about SWA pilot pay. It is WAY more than a Delta 744/777 captain makes. WAY more. And soon ValuTran pilots will be making WAY more than a Delta 744/777 captain. WAY more.
Thems are the facts ace.
Carl