Originally Posted by
Regularguy
1257:
What we all need is a comparison of actual current pay rates not some mythical adjusted rates. What are UAL, CAL, DAL and SWA pilots really getting paid today. No adjustment for inflation, 2000, 2004 etc. Just the cold hard facts.
There is nothing mythical about it.
-We are currently under bankruptcy manipulated rates that don't represent healthy efficient pre-bankruptcy companies.
-UAL is now more efficient and has better loads/metrics than their pre-bankruptcy condition.
-Management would love to keep you at bankruptcy rates while they have pre-bankruptcy income. This shows our compensation in line with the company's income/costs.
-The title is a Contract 2K comparison, by definition.
-The rates listed for UAL/DAL were the real 2004 rates had the bankruptcy not happened.(the last year given in the C2K contract)
-The adjusted rates are adjusted for the real inflation numbers, just like the inflation increases in any other contract. (19.3% 7/04-6/11)
-The Southwest numbers are real based on real pilots dividing W2 by real hours of pay time. The conservative examples were used.
-All showing current bankruptcy induced rates does is lower the expectations of people who buy into the idea that the company can't afford pre-bankruptcy rates.
-If you would like a different view, you're welcome to do the work I did for this one.