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Old 07-06-2011 | 05:18 PM
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Carl Spackler
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Reengage, become a "Tea Party" sort of group within ALPA and work to change what you see wrong with it. With 3000 pilots you could own most votes and definitely all of the LEC meetings. With those sort of numbers you could quite easily change reps, and as a result the MEC administration.
Yes you could. You would then be in control of your local union...which would still be controlled by ALPA which controls your finances and access to experts. And you'd also still be controlled by an organization that represents the regionals and must see to it that they prosper as well. That's what you just refuse to state because you know that's the deal breaker. If you could "fix" that at ALPA national, then you'd have my ear.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I would think that DPA would want to change what they see as an issue before an opener is presented that we would be bound to though out the process.
Another straw man, and I know you know it. How can ANY of us change what might ultimately end up in the opener before the opener is exchanged? That process is totally controlled by the MEC. Whether they use our survey data is irrelevant because they are under no obligation to show us that data, or abide by it.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Frankly, time is of the essence to accomplish this, and if trying is not even attempted, then honestly all the DPA push can do is divide the group while we are in Section 6, which will hurt all DAL pilots and the ultimate outcome of the process.
Again, you're using a false choice to disparage our in-house union attempt. "Not even attempted?" As I've said above, all ANY of us outside of the MEC can do is fill out the survey...nothing else.

Carl