Then they spent another 11 to 12 billion on new airplanes and half a billion on a strike for a total cost in the range of $15 billion. Outsourcing an airline is expensive.

As of 2009, it was believed the FUTURE obligations under our fee for departure contracts was in the range of $25 billion. A number initially disputed, then subsequently quasi confirmed by one of ALPA's published scope experts.

I will repeat, outsourcing an airline is expensive.