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Old 07-08-2011 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
JVs are not universally good. The AF/KLM is perhaps the best of the bunch.
Our smaller metal means more Delta pilots, that's a good thing across the Atlantic.

I'd like to see the new LOA for VAustralia. My fear is the ratio is already beyond the 50%-50% split in ASMs so that can't be good. In addition Alska does our feed in LAX so no Delta pilot feed jobs on this side of the pacific, while VAustralia (formerly known as Virgin Blue) pilots get to fly Delta pax around Australia.

The big one coming is VAtlantic and I can't see how to spin "the upside" to the pilot group, this will have to be very creative (something like "West coast access to LHR")

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Agreed, point is we will fly more block which is good, but it will be on lower paying metal. I can see why so many guys are pushing for a longevity based system for our pay. More block benefits everyone equally under that plan.

Oh and I agree, the "Benefits" of the AF JV and access to LHR get washed away with that. VA will fly those routes and we may have a token presence. I am still very uneasy about that one.

As for Pac Rim, yep, I see Singapore is doing a JV with V Australia. I wonder is they are getting ready to switch to our team....... Seems a little coincidental.