Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Wildly swinging at shadows will not help your case shiznit. Nothing about this post has a single grain of truth. Nobody at the DPA will be baited by something so blatantly obvious as wasting our energies toward "fixing" ALPA by using ALPA's own processes. That will never happen. If it ever did, I would worry about how easily guys can be conned. You needn't worry though...nobody at DPA will take the bait.
Not wildly swinging at shadows, and there is plenty of truth to what I say. Just because
you disagree doesn't mean that I'm incorrect.
I'm asking to see evidence to prove to me and many fence-sitters that DPA supporters have the wherewithal and ability to accomplish things that help the pilots of Delta Air Lines.
Don't tell me "it will be better" without proving that by actions.
(I have a contractor doing work for me now that keeps promising the moon, and will tell me anything I want to hear....but he isn't DOING anything, and if he actually does do something, it is shoddy and I regret hiring him, I believed words, not his actions and now I'm getting hosed.)
I want to see that the work being done is being done to a higher standard than what we presently have. Show me the Policy Manual of the C&BL that are going to be used! If they are good, start implementing them now!
Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
It is indeed the goal. I can't figure out why you have such heartburn over that letterhead saying "DPA". Unless what you're REALLY saying is that you don't want to leave ALPA...for any reason.
I don't have heartburn with DPA letterhead, I have heartburn with people who make claims and use extremely emotional words to enact something that I view as a business decision.
Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Your prediction is already false. 25% of Delta pilots have already turned in their cards BEFORE the TWA verdict against ALPA came out. To claim that any more cards are only based on the TWA verdict is pure wild speculation.
Carl
No, its not false, I grant completely that the cards in so far had little to nothing to do with a TWA announcement(maybe one or two guys saw it coming though). I think some percentage of the cards still coming in will be just what the previous ones were, but I think the impetus to put it over the top will be if there is a judgement on damages that puts the union out of business or forces an assessment onto the pilots that will be expensive to pay off.
If splitting from ALPA is what will ensure the Delta Pilots escape paying damages for a court case that they had no part in causing, I would have to consider going along with that plan, provided there was a strong transition team and that the "DPA team" would include the current/outgoing admin to build a team that can move forward together and keep the functions and duties of the union on track to benefit ALL Delta Pilots.