Originally Posted by
shiznit
I'm asking to see evidence to prove to me and many fence-sitters that DPA supporters have the wherewithal and ability to accomplish things that help the pilots of Delta Air Lines.
The problem for you is: we already know how you define "accomplishing things that help the Delta pilots." Your definition of that is working within the construct of ALPA. If DPA supporters don't do that, then we are a failure by your definition. It's an example of the black hole you're hoping we step in to. It won't happen. We know it's a dead end. By now, you should know that too.
Originally Posted by
shiznit
(I have a contractor doing work for me now that keeps promising the moon, and will tell me anything I want to hear....but he isn't DOING anything, and if he actually does do something, it is shoddy and I regret hiring him, I believed words, not his actions and now I'm getting hosed.)
What a great example. Sounds exactly why so many of us are supporting the DPA. You're describing ALPA to a tee. All talk and promises, but walking away from unity every chance they get.
Originally Posted by
shiznit
I don't have heartburn with DPA letterhead, I have heartburn with people who make claims and use extremely emotional words to enact something that I view as a business decision.
You're exactly right. This is a business decision. Many of us have decided that our vendor (ALPA) has long since underperformed its one-time great reputation. The vendor keeps promising, but keeps failing. Now we want to fire them. Nothing personal, strictly business.
Originally Posted by
shiznit
No, its not false, I grant completely that the cards in so far had little to nothing to do with a TWA announcement(maybe one or two guys saw it coming though). I think some percentage of the cards still coming in will be just what the previous ones were, but I think the impetus to put it over the top will be if there is a judgement on damages that puts the union out of business or forces an assessment onto the pilots that will be expensive to pay off.
That is a totally different premise than your previous post. I'm glad you're moderating your view on that. Your previous post said this:
Originally Posted by
shiznit
Lastly, mark my words, IF by some chance DALPA becomes DPA, it will be due to an assessment for TWA failures from a decade ago, NOT because of failure at the LEC/MEC level.
Originally Posted by
shiznit
If splitting from ALPA is what will ensure the Delta Pilots escape paying damages for a court case that they had no part in causing, I would have to consider going along with that plan, provided there was a strong transition team and that the "DPA team" would include the current/outgoing admin to build a team that can move forward together and keep the functions and duties of the union on track to benefit ALL Delta Pilots.
I would hope that too. But some current ALPA officials have said they would never lift a finger for the DPA. Those people should never be allowed in the transition or anywhere else. Because by those statements, they've proved they work for ALPA...and not Delta pilots.
Carl