Originally Posted by
jsled
Good lord. It is no wonder you guys have some junior Captains. I am not sure that 4 stripes is worth dealing with that!!
UAL Rsv highlights:
long call: 13 hour call out
CAL's is not for commuters. The pilots didn't have
any long call until the most recent contract so they didn't even really know what to ask for (apparently). Nine-hour callout is not a commuting callout. It is simply 24 hours on call and you go into FAA min rest when called. That's it. Just min rest. 13 hours actually gives you time to commute.
Originally Posted by
jsled
short call: 4 hour call out
everyone is long call until assigned a short call. cs usually builds the short calls at 7am, but can build them anytime. They usually assign them at 1pm domicile time the day prior.
CAL's are mostly short call with a 3-hour to push callout. This really puts it down to a 2 to 2 1/2 hour call out because you have to get to ops to checkin on the company computer, get your flight kit, check vfile, etc and block out 3 hours after the call. It's a very short leash. Assigned at 1500 or after you block it, whichever is later.
Originally Posted by
jsled
reserve pick up option: allows you to pick up a trip in open time 28 hrs prior to departure on the computer without crew sched involvement.
Reserves can pickup after 9am the day before, not 28 hours. And a reserve cannot do anything without talking to cs. You always have to talk to cs for anything as a reserve. It is one of the things that make you feel under their thumb. One cs interprets one way, another cs another. The application of "policies" in the blank areas of the contract can be wide.
Originally Posted by
jsled
12 days off are fixed in the domestic operation. They cannot be moved
Eight days fixed. Pilot can move them but if he does they become unfixed, so not a good idea to move them.
Originally Posted by
jsled
the 24 hours off in 7 days is in domicile on reserve. Lineholders can check a box to waive this, but reserves cannot. So, max rsv days in a row is 6
Pretty much same, except 24 hours off can be anywhere, for anybody.
Originally Posted by
jsled
reserves get 14 hours block to block rest in domicile. this cannot be waived by pilot, but can be waived by crew sched if "only rsv available"
Ha! You've got to be kidding. No wonder negotiations stalled when they got to scheduling section. CAL is 10 (11 in EWR) min for both lineholders and reserve. One way cs can get around even this for reserves is to keep adding to the trip so that even though it overnights in a domicle, since it part of a trip, you don't get in domicle rest (but they do have to give you a hotel).
For the lineholder if he doesn't put a larger number in his PBS monthly bid, PBS will give him a redeye, min rest in base, and then start another trip that night. Block in at 6am, block out at 4pm. Fun, fun, everyone's looking forward to the weekend, weekend.
If I read the UAL contract correctly, UAL pilots must have 16 hours no duty before a redeye. CAL works pilots out to the west coast in the morning, min rest, and then redeye back that night--with another leg after the redeye at times. In fact, as long as it doesn't exceed the duty day, CAL will work right into a redeye (late IAH-PHX, one hour on the ground, redeye).
Originally Posted by
jsled
i have been on rsv for the last 5 years. It sucks, but nothing like I am reading about CAL. Using the reserve pick up option, I have gone some months without even talking to cs. My days off are fixed, and my days on are spent on a "normal" trip most months. This is all DOMESTIC. Intl' rules are different.
If only we can hang on to this in the JCBA. It might actually cause some seat movement. There are a lot of FOs parked in senior spots because no one wants to sit reserve.
When the company said they were going to take the best of both worlds in the JCBA, I'm sure "best" to them was CAL's work rules. I'm glad it's not going that way. Imagining QOL at CAL is like trying to imagine military basic training before you go. You really can't comprehend what you've gotten into until you're in the middle of it. If the unions can't get UAL workrules, and much better I hope, in the JCBA it's going to be a miserable 10 years for a lot of people.
You simply can't imagine.