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Old 07-17-2011 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
I'm missing your logic here. You acknowledge that total Delta flying has gone up, but you're concerned about allocation of 737 time? Yet you point out that staffing in that category has actually gone up?

Similar story in SEA. We've doubled the size of the pilot base there, and opened a new 7ER base.
I don't know if total pilot staffing has increased, has it? I don't see any increase in 737 to jump for joy over hence the question what was lax 737 staffing in 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, and so on. Hell what is lax total pilot staffing back to the western merger?

I'm concerned with the flying we're losing to Alaska. That's all I've consistently been asking. Again, I don't care right now about international flying. To me that's watch the right hand and don't pay attention to the left hand robbing you.

Alaska doesn't do international but if the did I'm sure we'd give it up to them just like we give up or partially give up routes like LAX-SEA or don't fight them off SEA-MSP and SEA-ATL.

Why can't we stop the codeshare in lax but let Alaska own SEA flying codeshares? Bros before Eskimos... our guys cone first and it is my only concern when you see Delta selling tickets on 20 flights a day between two of our own hubs, flown on 738s and 739s no less, with not a single Delta jet on them.

Are we truly coming out ahead? After all what was it in May at the Mec meeting that brought up a review of this codeshare. I thought it was because there were questions about how detrimental it was to our own pilots?

Originally Posted by slowplay
The point is we aren't losing flying because of Alaska. We've gained flying. The history lookback is to remind folks that when any airline without a compelling competitive advantage has tried to dominate LAX, they've ultimately lost flying. I believe that history (and marketing's numbers) would show that without the Alaska codeshare there would be even fewer LAX 73N departures and fewer Delta pilot jobs overall.
What I see is DAL finding it cheaper to codeshare then try. The whole too much debt to buy airplanes, free milk and a cow, etc. But are we that short on airplanes?

Still wondering, how much growth could we have if we kicked as out of our lax flying alone and took back the 51-76 seat market? How many new Delta pilots would we have? I think it's substantial.

Last edited by forgot to bid; 07-17-2011 at 01:47 PM.