Originally Posted by
SONORA PASS
Bus Driver,
The comparison was in response to a fellow UAL pilot who turned down the Jets for Jobs offer. I do not blame him at all, but questioned the uniform application of the principle used.
The Jets for Jobs put UAL pilots at 2nd year pay during their 1st year. If $37/hr is too low for 1st year RJ pay, my comparisson was saying that $31/hr or $33/hr to fly a B737 or A320 is even worse. Sooo... if we say $37/hr is an insult (which it is), we degrade our profession by offering our new hires
even less!
No ALPA contract should ever go out for a vote with welfare wages at the entry level. The heavily skewed pay scales destroy the ablity to have any career mobility, and shackle the pilot to his or her company for better, or most often worse.
Lets fix this mess and build contract pay scales from the base up.
SP
SP
It isn't only the pay at the J for J program. It is also the longevity, if the longevity accrued at the J for J carrier transferred back to UCAL when called back from furlough I might consider it.
It is BS that my job is eleminated, moved to a regional, then I am offered a job at that regional were I may be for many years with pay that lags way behind mainline in subsequent years (I was looking beyond the second year pay as well). Then when several years down the road I am recalled and my longevity at UCAL would return to my furlough point after I have been flying the same airlines customers?
What I find insulting is; having my work outsourced, being offered a job at that outsourced company (essentially replacing myself) and having people expect me to be happy about it, being whipsawed against myself, and finally the fact that ALPA thinks it is acceptable to have us outsurce ourselves.