Wow, this thread has gone all over the place. From, a rumour to yay to it sucks so bad who would want to, to how much pay, etc. I am a 12/99 UAL DOH with 5+ years off for good behavior. I would love to get back to work, and let my wife stay home with the kids like she's wanted to since 12/99. I just need to know exactly what pay I am coming back to, for planning purposes. Should I figure 7th year UAL 320 pay or what? We could use a decent health, dental plan etc. with 3 kids. I know the current work rules at CAL suck, but, it can't be that way for much longer......right? We have to have a contract within the next year. I imagine, the way my career has gone thus far, that I will be stapled well below the CAL guys in the SLI, but, starting in 2012 all the clingons will be leaving, no? So, the hell should only last so long. I am so confused!!! Shed some light on me oh great forum gods.