Originally Posted by
caddis
Not sure which rep he was talking about but the MSP LEC rep has said this publicly multiple times. The latest event was during the week they spent in the MSP check in area. In fact he stated asking for more then 10% initially and 20% over the life of the contract will put the company back in bankruptcy.
PG there is a reason that more pilots are buying donuts these days.
I think the main issue with any union is that they become too BUDDY BUDDY with management. The process of negotiating and fact finding leads to a lot of co-mingling and basically that thick line that divides management and the Union dissolves. Unacceptable.
Management will always use this "BUDDY BUDDY" moment with the Union to manipulate and interject unfound and off truth scenarios (We will be bankrupt if we accept any more than 20% pay-raise<--Bull $h!t). In which the union starts to take heed and believe and then pass on to their members. This is pure management 301 tactics.
The solution is to have absolutely no personal or off record INTERACTIONS with management. THE truth shown, spoken and proved is elusive. We will never be able to prove the truth with any accounting or books the company has, so its best to just DEMAND what we are worth and attack with our own company research data and findings. Think about it: 1) If American is able to buy so much metal with so much debt and a weak balance sheet and this Republic entity is able to operate a "failing" entity for this long, I really dont think Pilot labor is any issue to running a multi billion dollar entity like DAL.
Now if there was any chance that we are guaranteed a truthful exchange and negotiating tool, then all of what I said is "out-the-door". I just dont think the companies of today are truthful. And I think our Unions of today rub managements' back just a little too much. Keep the LINE that differentiates Management and UNION thick, please.
My observation and 2 cents,
TEN