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Old 07-22-2011 | 07:52 AM
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alfaromeo
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You're making a fool out of yourself alfa, really. There is no legal precedent to redo an SLI once that SLI has been accepted by management AND THE OPERATIONS HAVE BEEN COMBINED. None. If you can find such legal precedent, POST IT!

The United scab situation did not even involve an SLI. The only reason the Nic award can be fought now is because it was never IMPLEMENTED AT A COMBINED OPERATION. None of your posts above pertain to Delta Air Lines because our management agreed to the SLI and our operations are now COMBINED.

The DPA's website (vetted by DPA's attorney) is 100% correct. Our SLI is unchangeable.

Carl
Wrong Carl. A seniority list is always negotiable, but it is difficult to do. US Airways management has accepted the Nicolau award and their status is EXACTLY what our status is. You state that their seniority list is in some different status because it hasn't been used in combined operations. Wrong. The list is done, it is final, just because it hasn't been used in combined operations is completely immaterial. By the way, the courts agree with me. If USAPA is free to alter their list because it hasn't been used, then why are they negotiating with management to change the seniority list? Why would management have a say? It's because seniority lives in the contract and just like compensation or crew meals, you have to negotiate with management to change it. Our list has been accepted and is also subject to negotiation. It is very difficult to do because of the zero sum game nature of these negotiations. Do you get it now?

You are wrong, 5 federal judges in 3 different courts say you are wrong. No matter how many times you repeat this foolishness, it doesn't make it right. Seniority is Section 20 in our contract, it can be renegotiated at any time. Why don't you do some research before you make statements that have no basis in fact? Go read the Addington transcripts, read the Ninth Circuit appeal filings, and read the filings in the Declaratory Judgement that US Air management filed. You might learn something and be able to speak about this issue with some basis in fact. Now, you just make things up and bluster about trying to hide your ignorance of the facts.