i am not for the age 60 deal for reasons such as possible medical changes and or b-fund abolishment etc...but with other airlines around the world adopting it i think it will definately change...what a blessing for fdx guys who didn't save for their retirement(all the dc-10 s/os) or blew it on ex-wives(foxhunter)......i refer to fdx guys because the pax guys have legitimate reasons...like pensions being eliminated...noone here is an age bigot because we will all be there one day...and where is maydaymark going?