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Old 08-03-2011 | 08:40 AM
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Bill Lumberg
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Originally Posted by tsquare
OK.. so if SWA makes $0.01 more than ATI, the ATI guys would be getting a windfall, right? I just want to be sure where you are coming from.

With that logic, SWA has X airplanes. SInce ATI will be bringing Y airplanes, the SWA FO side of the list will be getting an airframe windfall since they did not have those airframes available before the merger. How do you reconcile that?

And no, not related to Trump, but I live within my means so money is not as big an issue as it is with some.

Where do you come up with the $0.01 extra equals a windfall? Monetarily the ATI guys are getting a windfall. That is just one aspect of the SLI and Joint Contract. They are also losing out on airframes to the SWA pilots over time. Do you suggest we are going to do the same? If so, we need to change bargaining agents RIGHT NOW and get someone in here that will protect and fight for both. That could be the DPA. SWAPA doesn't seem to have a problem fighting for everything possible, and you suggest that we might not be able to have both? I just want to make sure I know where you are coming from.......

With that logic, Delta pilots want X for a raise. You contend that to get any windfall, you must give up something else (like Y for planes). The DPA won't follow your logic. After a bankruptcy giveback is combined with profitable quarters, restoration or partial restoration is in order, not continued givebacks, which some on here suggest.

Living within your means is great, especially when someone puts the impression in your head of what you and they (ALPA) can afford. If you are told you can't make more than X per year, a safe person will not spend over it. The SWA pilots (and soon the ATI pilots), OTOH, make X+ per year, and enjoy their life, flying something half the size of your plane. It's ok to dream about making more, especially when profits and fees can allow it to happen.