Originally Posted by
Phuz
The difference between Frontier and Virgin America is that Delta's labor costs currently allow Delta to pay Republic/Frontier, and in fact continue to grow that partnership. The downside for you is that even though Frontier could not stand on its own due to SWA/Unical, that nice little (and ever expanding) subsidy given to shuttle america/chataqua on a FFD basis is enough to keep that sinking ship afloat.
As far as my personal angle, I have no desire to work for a company which lacks the scope/spine to prevent their management's subsidizing of failed competitors. It is absolutely in my best interest to see that resolved regardless of where I decide to hang my hat. Got me all figured out now, don't ya?!
Phuz, for the reasons J29 mentioned below the RAH system is legal under our ALPA created contract. Plain and simple. Legal. The key is to have RAH declared the STS we all know it is then their out.
Now you could sit back and demand Delta pilots do that for you guys.
That way RAH would implode and be left with no alternative but to sell Frontier off and you guys would be freed.
Or you can do it yourself? It's completely in your self interest and power to do so. Collapse RAH.
Or you could continue to post like an ass under the belief that Delta pilots posting here really care about what Frontier is doing out of an airport that is not even our hub and never will be.
If you want to have a constructive dialogue be constructive. Give us ammo for an STS fight, not a feeble attempt to poke us in the eye that Frontier is paid less and undercutting us and will soon takeover the world or something - right after Frontier is ousted from Denver by a 737 only airline who pays more than double what Frontier/RAH does.
BTW, if pay mattered like you think it does then why is SWA getting larger and larger in DEN while Frontier pilots vote on pay cuts?
Originally Posted by
johnso29
And it's completely within the terms of our contract.
You also have NO idea if F9 is being kept afloat by the FFD contracts from DAL. It's pure speculation on your part, & if it were true I suppose BB wouldn't have needed concessions from Frontier pilots. You accuse Delta pilots of having no spine, but I don't see you standing up for scope or better wages.