Damn hard to say, but if anybody is getting numbers then post them here so we can at least get an idea how it's progressing.

Regardin the 209 Volunteers I just wonder how many would want to come back to sit 737 reserve even at their old pay?

What happens with mil situation is even bigger. That's what 40-45% of our guys?

Id say the ratio will shrink big time when you get to involuntaries but I'd still stick with 4-5/1 for reasons above.

Again, if somebody is getting good numbers let us know.