Originally Posted by
slowplay
I'll be back late tonight when I have more time, but I see nobody from the assembled forum wisdom has challenged this divisive, revisionist tripe.
The ENTIRE fNWA NC was in NYC for over a month working on the pre-merger announcement JCBA. Much of the fNWA committee structure (including Comm, R&I, and CA) was in NYC, eventually to be joined by the entire fNWA MEC. By late February a JCBA had been agreed to by the 3 parties, but there was no SLI, so no deal. Much of that same process was repeated in March, then the entire process was repeated again in June. Section 1 of the DAL PWA was substantially altered by the JCBA to include things like the fNWA Alaska code share, Compass, and the new agreement tightened permitted aircraft limits compared to the previous stand alone DAL and NWA contracts.
If I reversed the names above and said had the fNWA negotiators not given away CPZ we wouldn't have this problem, that the fDAL guys had no hand in crafting the language...how would that read? While the DAL PWA provided the framework for the JOINT CBA, the JCBA was a document that underwent at least 3 different sets of negotiations, was ratified by two separate MEC's and was voted on by 2 separate pilot groups.
That this forum allows this kind of stuff to stand unchallenged for 3 pages, yet wonders where's my response...

Sometimes you guys need to look in a mirror, imo.
Slow, what you say is factually correct, it was not part of the deal, period. What guys are wondering, and have wondered on many items in the FNWA JCBA, is why where they not included. Why where they not looked at, or considered? Maybe they were, but I know I my experience when talking to the Reps involved in the process, many have stated that it was about getting the job done, and getting to an agreement. Maybe that is not the case, but it is not the perception out there.
I know at times, the responses that I have gotten from those involved on both sides of the merger, felt that some items "might" have been overlooked, not by design, just because of the circumstances, and the swiftness that the agreement was crafted.
*This is not just about the CPS stuff, but also other items in the contract. It is what it is, and looking in the rear view mirror does nothing, but the whole experience should be a good lesson.