hey toeman what do you consider a sh@# flight instructor??? i know some shi@# flight instructors but i also know sh@#$ students also. When i was instucting if a student want to get all of his ratings we would do the first portion of his private up untill the solo then go on to the instrument when most of the instrument was finished they would solo by that time the solo was a non-event three supervised solo's in the mourning 2 local solo's in the afternoon. 2 x-c's the next day, another 2 the following day untill all the solo's were done review the slow flight steep turns stalls checkride (non-event) two weeks later instrument checkride commercial complete in a couple weeks later, very productive program. i soloed at a different school than i instructed at so i scared myself aroud the pattern in about 10-12 hours I did not kill myself but i did not enjoy it untill i was back on the ground.