That's the point I'm trying to make. You can select certain stats all day long to make the case against pay restoration. I would expect Swelbar to present stats that can be used to justify lowering labor costs. That is his specialty, and he does it pretty well. I just don't think it's in our best interest for you (or any of us) to take that ball and run with it. Let's spend more time making the case for restoration and less time spouting management's case against it. Seems like that would be more appropriate for what we're trying to achieve, don't you think?