So what can we do Higney? I wouldn't like to see someone get canned because they were displaced to the colgan side and they are under the mins. I suppose with new hire classes they can up pinnacle's mins but what about someone who is already through class but hasnt hit 1000/100 yet? Regardless of their lower time I think that person just proved their ability to hack it and shouldnt be dropped. Like you said we may not be able to change what the FAA wants but maybe we can figure out something between the company and union. My idea would be to offer the FO's that were awarded or currently hold jet seats the same pay rate on the colgan side if they will give up that seat for someone without the mins to keep it.