Originally Posted by oldmako

Well Carl,

It's the standard talking point because it's 100% legitimate. Sure SWA and UPS kick major a$$, but there have been plenty of other "in house" pilot clubs that just sucked a$$. Make sure that you factor them into your comparison. How long has APA been without a contract? And USAPA?

I happen to be close friends with a union officer at USAPA. From what I hear from him, the type of political tripe we all love to complain about (within ALPA) is alive and well at USAPA. So, the panacea of a "new" union being free of this crap is just naive. Changing horses at this point in would extend our contract talks exponentially and would give Jeff a woodie.

Before you toss that baby out with the bath water, talk to someone who REALLY needed representation or medical help. Ask them what they think about ALPA now.

Flame all you want, but I'd rather put the onus on fixing the problems within ALPA than starting from scratch.