And I guess you werent aware that we are still awaiting the ruling of seat locks for the 824, there has been a few e-mail in regards to this. Also look at the flow plan and see how we are still backed up in upgrades. Could this explain things a bit better. Two months ago there were over 70 captain vacancies, it takes times for them to get these guys typed, just be patient your capatin vacancies will come soon. We are having problems with IOE since an ERJ FO can complete ground school and SIM for the ERJ in about 3 weeks. Moving FOs around is easy with the vacancies, upgrades is a whole different animal, but that's just what I see!!