whew. thanks CVG, I was starting to feel down.

But I'll tell you the truth, I know young Delta pilots considering AMR. They're mostly Texans and want back into DFW and they're looking at the retirement numbers and comparing it to ours and evidently it is madly in favor in AMR. Not sure, never ran the numbers. But as HOckey pointed out a while ago and I'm not different when you look at the projected retirements many of us bottom feeders won't move more than a 1,000 numbers in almost the first decade. I think AMR will be faster and people are looking at it seriously because it's not like airlines grow anymore, they're staying the same size and retirements are the only means of movement.

FedEx is also a prized position because what we've learned over the past decade is there is money in cargo and its consistent. How many $25 envelops can you put in a 757 vs $250 passengers for a transcon.