Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Okay, let's play a game?

1. Pay or scope?

2. If scope, what pay?

3. If pay, or when it comes to pay, what work rules?

Originally Posted by newKnow

Let's see. How about, I'M SAFE(R)?

I - International Flying: Why are our code share partners ordering widebody aircraft while we tout an order for 737-900's to replace some of our 757's and 767's? All this while the new United has 100 747-400's and 777's. Delta has 34. We continue to add foreign carriers while we pull down international in most regions.

M - Money: When a Southwest 737 taxi's by, can we honestly say we make enough money? insert joke about SWA taxi speed here

S - Scope: Do we have tight and enforced scope language? (See next two below) should we grant further scope relief just to help the company get fake debt relief while trusting the same lawyers who were outsmarted by the ancient seperate certificate trick at Republic Air Group of getting it right this time?

A - Alaska Airlines: Why are they expanding 5-6% (while we are shrinking)? and in a "supposedly" no revenue sharing agreement no less. Srsly?

F - Frontier Airlines: Why are they touting themselves as the fastest growing major airline (while we are shrinking)? And subsidizing them while we do it!

E (R) - Enriched Retirement: What can we do to get a better retirement plan? Because, like Scambo said, "Without a pension, an airline job is just a job. Pension being the differentiator for me between a career and a job." That just happened!