Originally Posted by
ATCsaidDoWhat
Oh you can BET it was heard loud and clear by management. They already had the letter to the NMB waiting for the vote and will be only too happy to go back to mediation...because now there can't be a strike.
I think the 2-1 margin will also be heard by the NMB.
How does this prevent a strike? It doesn't. We go back to mediation and pick up where we left off.
Turning down some pretty good scope, a 40% pay raise in a first contract and now you've set yourself up for a couple of YEARS of mediation and remaining "at will" employees with no protections....pure genius.
We are at will now. Nothing lost there.
A couple YEARS of mediation is preferable to 5 years minimum under the conditions of this TA.
The 40% pay raise (for the new hire FO's; significantly less as longevity and seat assignment mature) is considerably diluted by the concessionary work rules contained elsewhere.
Did you guys really give up gateway travel and a GUARANTEED plane ticket to work in favor of jumpseating to work?
No. We have a guaranteed plane ticket to work right now. From ONE airport which WE get to choose.
We were not willing to give that up to drive to a "gateway" airport (which airport was subject to change at the "sole discretion" of the company with specific language that it would be ANY one of those within a 120 mile circle) and pay 18 days of long term parking there.
I'd love to hear your fallback plan for when the company starts moving assets and give you a pay cut because the economy is in the crapper. Remember, it's not what they make...it's what they are willing to pay...
Here is the fallback plan:
§ 156. Procedure in changing rates of pay, rules, and working conditions...In every case where such notice of intended change has been given, or conferences are being held with reference thereto, or the services of the Mediation Board have been requested by either party, or said Board has proffered its services, rates of pay, rules, or working conditions shall not be altered by the carrier until the controversy has been finally acted upon, as required by section 155 of this title, by the Mediation Board, unless a period of ten days has elapsed after termination of conferences without request for or proffer of the services of the Mediation Board.
I saw where you were flinging poo at the Frontier guys over on that other thread (one of the hundreds) and holding up the Omni TA as an example. I came close to PM'ing you not to be so quick about it but decided to let that play out on its own. I don't know if your apparent indignation at the 2-1 defeat of this TA is related to that.
In any case, it does not appear you have looked in depth at this TA or made the comparison with the current "at will" work rules as have the pilots who would have actually had to work under it for five years minimum.