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Old 09-26-2011 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Definitely NOT. It would be way too helpful to the other side.
Management would love to see those results. They MUST be kept confidential.

We just have to trust our guys. I trust them.
Fears of ALPA insiders manipulating the results are just silly.
A lot of people will see those results. The number of people involved in any "conspiracy" to hide or alter the survey results would have to be pretty large. Somebody would blow the whistle.

Its true the negotiators may not follow the survey to the letter when they sit down at the table. That's completely understandable. They will have to come up with a strategy and prioritize their demands based on many factors besides just the survey. The main influence will obviously be the opponent's position. You never know where they will fight the hardest.

Plus, Wall Street and the other employee groups will be watching. There are lots of ways to bump our compensation besides increasing the pay rates and making headlines with a huge percentage number. Of course we raise the rates, but we also make vacation and training worth 4 hours per day. Raise the reserve guarantee to 80 hours. Change the trip rigs and rotation guarantees. Bring back night pay. Raise per diem. Increase the international over-ride. And on and on.
You can do all of that kind of stuff and Wall Street and the other employee groups don't really count it as a huge "pay raise". They don't understand our contract well enough to realize what happened.
We can increase our bottom line by 50% without raising our pay rates by 50%.
The negotiators will need some flexibility. The survey is a tool. It is not some sort of binding document.
I can see that being true for some of the ranking data, but I'd like to see some of that data published.
I'd be interested to see what kind of a percentage raise the majority of our pilots think would be acceptable. Also how many pilots participated in the survey.

Like you said it is only a tool, not a concrete position from the pilot group.