Originally Posted by johnso29

I'm not arguing that some guys haven't moved much. That was never my point. I do have more people under me know then when the arbitrated list was released though. Over twice as many people to be exact.

My point was that people in your position haven't seen much movement for a number of reasons. The two biggest IMO being bankruptcy and 9/11. To further emphasize my point, I stated that people shouldn't expect a ton of movement until the Age 65 retirements start anyway. daldad is complaining because we are supposedly shrinking, & my point was what else did you expect? Two Legacy carriers merged in order to save costs and increase profitability. To think that we would merge and then magically grow organically is foolish IMO. It defeats the purpose of the merger.

Add to that the last 10 years have been worse for growth rather then better. 9/11, SARS, the housing crash, the bank crash, the market crash, one of the worst recessions we've ever seen. UAL parked 100 airplanes and furloughed 1500 pilots. Continental furloughed, UsAir furloughed, ATA, Pace, Skybus, Aloha, to name of few went out of business. I know the lack of projected growth and upward movement is tough to swallow, but it's been A LOT worse for a lot of other people.

There are many other factors that have contributed to the lack of progression, not just mergers, codeshares, & JV's. JMHO