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Old 09-28-2011 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
A couple of comments.

The opener is presented to the company negotiators, not a mediator, unless we have for some reason agreed to start with mediation rather than negotiation and the mediators have agreed to hear it. I see minimal downside in presenting a HUGE opener to management. I also expect that management will make some really onerous proposals of their own in their opener and we will laugh at them. Im not really sure why your example skipped over the opener straight to being parked by a mediator due to the current negotiating position.

I don't mean to sound Bill Clintonish, but my definition of reasonable is almost never in the same range as alpa, its usually quite a bit higher.
Yeah I was assuming we were talking about the opening position with a mediator present. I guess if we just meet with the company we will propose a billion dollars an hour and 29 days a month off (including February leap year or not) and they will propose minimum wage, DCI gets anything under 200 seats and anything over 210 seats and we buy our own hotels on overnights.

I think we all know we aren't going to reach an agreement outside of mediation so our true "openers" are just mental, um, facilitation.