Originally Posted by
SoCalGuy
In reading what you wrote, I believe your missing what I'm saying...
As per the article, The Federal Judge ordered Continental Airlines to turn over info on Pilot Training. I ask you, if CAL and Colgan have two separate Ops Cert's, what do you want to bet their Training Operation "could be" apples vs oranges?? Who knows, Colgan's training program could be closer to other operators not even mentioned. As far as CAL having any operational control, or direct record keeping of Colgan's Pilot Training Records beyond Colgan itself, doubt it. If that does happen to be the case, IE Colgan NOT having their record keeping online to that at which the Ops Spec/Cert implies, they (Colgan) have a lot to be worried about.
As far as CAL being "wiped free" of liability on the grounds that Colgan was "just a dba" figure w/ CAL's name painted on the tail.....CAL will have a lot of liability in this case one would think.....But I'm sure our fearless "leader" (term used beyond loosely), Jeff, would argue otherwise.....At least for the several yrs of trail that this case(s) will most likely serve.
SoCal,
Sadly, this issue has been bantered about the court room a few times. The legal team here is, I'm guessing, trying to turn that corner on what has been the standard regarding code-share and liability.
Thusfar, it has been shielded by the very fact that the dba carrier is an FAA 121 certificated carrier without holding the mainline carrier in any way accountable (liability wise) for marketing the flight and selling tickets, receiving revenue, etc. It is why the very issue of outsourcing occurs in my opinion.
Here's a typical excerpt from such a code share agreement. It's between US Air and a feeder but the same verbiage can be found in all regional code-share agreements.
Frats, and sorry for the formatting on this forum.
Lee
Section 7.01 Contractor Shal~ Act As An Independent Contractor
(a) The employees, agents, andlor independent contractors of Contractor engaged in
performing any of the services Contractor is to perfonn pursuant to this Agreement shall be
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employees, agents. and independ~nt contractors of Contractor for all pwposes, and under no
circwnstanc~ shall be deemed to be employees, agents or independent contractors of
US Airways. In its perfonnance under this Agreement, Contractor shall act, for all purposes, as
an jndependen~ contractor and not as an agent for US Airways. US Airways shall have no
supervisory power or control over any employees, agents or independent contractors engaged by
Contractor in connection with its perfonnance hereunder, and all complaints or requested
changes in procedures shall, in all events, be transmitted by US Airways to a designated officer
of ContraCtor. Nothing contained in this Agreement is intended to limit or condition Contractor's
control over its operations o,r the conduct of its business as a commuter air camer, and
Contractor and its· principals assume aU risks of financial losses which may result from the
operation of the air services to be provided by Contractor hereunder.
(b) The employees and agents of US Airways engaged in perfonning any of the services
US Airways is to perfonn pursuant to this Agreement shall be employees and agents of
US Airways for all purposes, and under no circumstances shall be deemed to be employees and
a~ents of Contractor. Contractor shall have no supervision or control over any such US Aixways
employees and agents and any complaint or requested chB

ge in procedure shall be transmitted
by Contractor to US Airways' des~gnated representative.
Section 7.02 Liability and Indemnification
(a) Each party hereto assumes full responsibility for any and all liability to its own directors,
officers, employees, or agents on account of injury, or.d.eath resulting from or sustained in the
performance of their respective services under this Agreement
(b) Contractor shall indemnify, defend, protect, save, and hold hannless US Airways, its
directors, officers, employees, and agents from and against any and all liabilities~ claims,
demands, suits, judgments, damages, and losses (including the costs, fees, and expenses in
connection therewith and incident thereto), brought against US Airways, its directors, officers,
employees or agents by or on behalf of any director, officer, employee, agent or independent
contractor of Contractor or anyone else claiming through sucn persons, or by reason of damage
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or destruction of property of ariy liuch person, or injury to or death of such person. caused by or
arising out of any act or omission octuning while this Agreement is in effect. US Airways shall
give Contractor prompt and timely notice of any claim 'made or suit instituted against
uS, Airways which in any way results in indemnification hereunder, and Contractor shall have
the right to compromise or participate in the defense of same to the extent of its own interest.
(c) Each party, with'respect to its'own employees, accepts full and exclusive liability for the
payment of worker's compensation andlor employer's liability insurance premiums with respect
to such employees, and' for the payment of all taxes, contributions or other payments for . . ..
, unemployment compensation or old age benefits, pensions or annuities now or hereafter imposed
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upon employers by the government of the United S~tes or by any state or ,local governmental
body with respect to such employees measured by the' wages, salaries. compensation or other
remuneration paid to such employees or otherwise, and each party further agrees to make such
payments and to make and file all reports and returns, and to do everything necessary to comply
with the laws imposing such taxes, contributions or other payments.
(d) Contractor hereby assumes liability for and shall indemnify, defend, protect. save, and
hold harmless US Airways, its d~ctors, officers, agents, and employees from and against any
and all liabilities, claims, demands, suits, judgments, damages, and losses (including all costs,
'fees, and expenses in connection therewith or incident thereto), for death of or inju:ry to any
person whomsoever, including, but not limited to Contractor's directors, officers, employees, or
agents. and for loss of, damage to, or destruction of any property whatsoever, including any loss
of use thereof, and including, but not limited to, property of Contractor, its directors, officers.
empl~yees or agents, caused by, arising out of, or in any way related to the performance,
operations. and any acts or omissions of either Contractor or US Airways, or their respective
directors. officers, employees, and agents, except for the gross negligence or willful misconduct
of US Airw.iys, its directors, officers, employees or agents, which are in any way related to the
services contemplated by this Agreement, and in the case of Contractor alone, any other services,
or acts or omissions or the use, operation, storage or possession of any ~ircraft, whether or not
bearing US Airways Express exterior decor, colors, and logo, and whether or not used in
performance of the services contemplated hereby' or in cbnnection with any other services
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pennitted by Article 10, -or otherwise. US Airways shall give Contractor prompt and timely
notice of any claim made or suit instituted against US Airways which in any way results in
indemnification hereunder, and Contractor shall have the right to compromise or participate in
the defense· of same to ~e extent of its own interest
·SectioD 7.03 !Dsurance Coverage
(a) In consideration of the privileges granted herein, Contractor shall; at all times during the
effectiveness of this Agreement, commencing with the first day thereof. have and maintain in full
force and effect policies of insurance satisfactory to US· Airways, of the types of coverage,
including coverage on all aircraft described in Section 2.03, and in the minimum amounts stated
below with companies satisfactory to US Airways and under tenns and ~conditions satisfactory to
US Airways as follows: .
Minimum Amounts oflnsurance Coverage (US CWTency)
1. AIRCRAFT LIABILITY AND GROUND ;LIABILITY INSURANCE
(Including Comprehensive Public Liability)
a. Bodily InjUry and Personal Injury -Passengers
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b. Bodily Injury and Personal Injury - Non-Passengers
c. Property Damage.
The minimum amounts of insurance coverage required under this paragraph shall be
$100,000,000, per occurrence, combined single limit for all coverage required under this
paragraph 1 utiJizing aircraft with less than thirty seats and S 1 50,000,000 per occurrence
combined single limit liability for all coverage utilizing aircraft ..... ith thiny or greater
seating capacity except personal injury - non:"passengers where the minimum amount of
insurance cov~rage is $25,000,000 per occurrence.
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2. WORKMAN'S COMEENSADON INSllRAN~E:
(Company Employees) Statutory
3. EMPLOYER'S LIABILITY:
(Company Employees) $100,000
4. ALL RISK HULL INSURAN~E Agreed Cost Or Such
QN AIRCRAFT PERFORMING Lesser Amount As May Be
SERVICES HEREUNDER: Consented To By US Airways
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S. BAGGAGE LIAeILITY: $1,250 (per Passenger)
6. CARGO LIABILITY: S 1 00.000 Any.One Aircraft
$100,000 Any One Disaster
With Tenns, Limitations and
Conditions Acceptable to
US Airways
(b) The parties hereby agree that from time to time during the term of this Agreement,
US Airways may require Contractor to have and maintain greater coverage than the amounts set
forth in paragraph (a) above. should the circumstances and conditions of Contractor's operations
under this Agreement be deemed in US Airways' sole judgment, to require reasonable increases
in any or all of the foregoing minimum insurance coverage.